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#1 ·
Hi, I need help on knowing the bad facts about Honda's civics and accords comparted to a Nissan brand car. My girlfriend is looking for a car and somehow she is hooked into honda civics and accords because of her sisters. So I need you guys help on facts that would steer her away from the Honda brand towards the Nissan brand. :thumbup:

Thanks!
 
#2 ·
As much as I'd LOVE to help you....Hondas are decent cars. Damn good gas milage, last a long time, not too many recalls(if any). Yes we'd love to have her get a nissan, but at least she isn't leaning towards a Kia!
 
#4 ·
-replacement honda parts are 20-30% more expensive than replacement nissan parts. (because hondas are made in japan, and nissans are made in the US)

-honda engines dont have automaticly adjusting valve lash. meaning simply, if you want your honduh engine to run smooth you have to manually readjust the valve lash every year or so.

-honda engines have no torque, which can be annoying on the highway.

--ehh tha-ts all i got for now, but those should be enough.
 
#6 ·
Tavel said:
-replacement honda parts are 20-30% more expensive than replacement nissan parts. (because hondas are made in japan, and nissans are made in the US)

-honda engines dont have automaticly adjusting valve lash. meaning simply, if you want your honduh engine to run smooth you have to manually readjust the valve lash every year or so.

-honda engines have no torque, which can be annoying on the highway.

--ehh tha-ts all i got for now, but those should be enough.
honda parts are cheaper then nissan parts, hondas are assembled in japan and nissans are assembled in usa(or mexico) but parts are more plentiful, ie cheaper

hondas have low torque, high HP... meaning less low end grunt, but plenty of power on the freeway...

not dissing nissan,. but get yur facts straight...
 
#7 ·
AznBoiBryant said:
Hi, I need help on knowing the bad facts about Honda's civics and accords comparted to a Nissan brand car. My girlfriend is looking for a car and somehow she is hooked into honda civics and accords because of her sisters. So I need you guys help on facts that would steer her away from the Honda brand towards the Nissan brand. :thumbup:

Thanks!
It's her car, let HER decide.

And its boy, not boi.
 
#8 ·
damn.....id buy a civic! i want that old boxy style hatch. love those things!

if she wants to get a civic let her! i have no problem with the car at all (there just to expencive for me) the v-tec si are nice little pocket rockets. its the PEOPLE that drive the riced out civics i dont like :thumbdwn: thats all. can i ask if she is going to mod it? if not than even more props for the honda..............they run like tanks. my friend had a beater accord and no matter how hard we tried, we just couldnt kill it :( many a 5k rpm clutch drop on that bad boy lol, sounded like a cow that hal was raping and killing at the same time, but it got the job done. he got to school everyday, with no dash might i add :thumbup: (word of advice.......dont go above 100 in a beater accord, its not a good time lol)
 
#9 ·
1.6pete said:
damn.....id buy a civic! i want that old boxy style hatch. love those things!

if she wants to get a civic let her! i have no problem with the car at all (there just to expencive for me) the v-tec si are nice little pocket rockets. its the PEOPLE that drive the riced out civics i dont like :thumbdwn: thats all. can i ask if she is going to mod it? if not than even more props for the honda..............they run like tanks. my friend had a beater accord and no matter how hard we tried, we just couldnt kill it :( many a 5k rpm clutch drop on that bad boy lol, sounded like a cow that hal was raping and killing at the same time, but it got the job done. he got to school everyday, with no dash might i add :thumbup: (word of advice.......dont go above 100 in a beater accord, its not a good time lol)
Well her plan was to buy the honda and make me mod it out of my own pocket. I was like... right and let it get stolen? because she parks outside and her neighborhood is extemely dark at night. I like the orginal idea of modding a nissan because you don't see those often around wichita. It's more like one civic at each intersection with some idiot who thinks that 50 decals on their car and a coffee can for an axle back exhaust gives 500hp .
 
#10 ·
ohhhh, that changes a bunch, if youre modding it with your cash, i think you should pick the car that you want to work on...........if she is not going to mod it or just use it as a daily beater then i would say get the honda.

in this case, find a classic se-r in good condition without rust and mod that.
 
#11 ·
BlankgazeX said:
honda parts are cheaper then nissan parts, hondas are assembled in japan and nissans are assembled in usa(or mexico) but parts are more plentiful, ie cheaper

hondas have low torque, high HP... meaning less low end grunt, but plenty of power on the freeway...

not dissing nissan,. but get yur facts straight...
uh...have you owned a honda?

my brother has an integra. why are his alternators 170 a pop and mine are 120 a pop? why are his injectors 110 and mine are 70? yep thats right, cus honda parts are more expensive!

when im driving my bros car on the freeway and floor it, how come nothing happens? but when im driving my car and floor it i get stuck to the back of my seat? yep thats right, cus they have no torque!
 
#12 ·
BlankgazeX said:
honda parts are cheaper then nissan parts, hondas are assembled in japan and nissans are assembled in usa(or mexico) but parts are more plentiful, ie cheaper

hondas have low torque, high HP... meaning less low end grunt, but plenty of power on the freeway...

not dissing nissan,. but get yur facts straight...
What are you, lobbying for Honda now that you've got one
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#15 ·
If you have the same resources you have with your Nissan for a Honda parts are almost a wash.. I've owned both an S2000 and a CRV and the maintenance costs were on par with my 200SX. Actually I had less overall probelms with the Honda's.

The items listed IMHO are NOT reasons to stay away from Honda, it is going to come down to what she wants and likes.

The real PRO to Honda products that cannot be ignored is their HIGH resale value...
 
#17 ·
Tavel said:
uh...have you owned a honda?

my brother has an integra. why are his alternators 170 a pop and mine are 120 a pop? why are his injectors 110 and mine are 70? yep thats right, cus honda parts are more expensive!

when im driving my bros car on the freeway and floor it, how come nothing happens? but when im driving my car and floor it i get stuck to the back of my seat? yep thats right, cus they have no torque!


your rationale is wrong. Just because Integra parts are more than your parts doesn't make it true for the whole honda line :rolleyes: Besides the fact that honda injectors are top feed and yours are side feed.

and what car does you bro have? because that can make a pretty big difference in terms of power.
 
#18 ·
ummm i thought it was common knowlege that torque gets you going and horsepower gets you top end...

vtec kicks in, giving you high end kick... and if you need to know if i have owned one, look at my car in my profile...

and greg... i hate you... :cheers:
 
#19 ·
oh and BTW, switch nissan with infiniti parts and you will see a premium too, acura is a "halo" brand, parts cost more...

try and look up rims for a civic then for a sentra, tell me whats cheaper... nowe find a bodykit, how about lights???

thats what i thought...

is your brothers car a base integra? cause you arent driving a base sentra...
 
#20 ·
Rylinkus said:
Itll be the fastest car in the neighborhood the 3 weeks of the year it runs.
Ehh, they arent that bad if done right. Once they reach supertuner status is when they seem to break often. And as far as Honda v. Nissan, newer entry level Hondas (Sivics) and newer entry level Nissans (Sentras) both have more problems now then they did years ago.
 
#21 ·
NickZac said:
Ehh, they arent that bad if done right. Once they reach supertuner status is when they seem to break often. And as far as Honda v. Nissan, newer entry level Hondas (Sivics) and newer entry level Nissans (Sentras) both have more problems now then they did years ago.
very true... as an aside... i had 0 problems with my sentra... but i know a lot of people unhappy with the mexican build quality of the sentras... consumer reports did not recommend it this year...
 
#22 ·
Ill keep off the DSM track as Ive yet to see a reliable one.

But as far as Nissan vs. Honda I think they are VERY comparable. Both are worlds more reliable then a lot of other options. I own a Nissan (Hardbody), but would probably be SLIGHTLY biased to the Honda end. I have seen some Hondas take absolutely stupid amounts of abuse and never have an issue. Frankly it baffles me as any car I've had would easy break under what some friends have put their Civics and Accords through.

And just because a car has more TQ doesnt mean it's faster. There are plenty of cars that Im sure have far more tq then my friends GSR. And the first few times I rode in his car it simply felt slow. I wasn't until he tore onto the hiway and I was watching the speedo that I realized just haw fast the damn thing was.
 
#23 ·
The best advice is to let her buy what she wants to buy. What's wrong with Hondas anyways? Just cause we both might have boners for Nissan product doesn't mean that everyone we know should buy one. Besides, telling a woman what to do is not always a good idea. In 79 my dad took the money my mom had saved for a new Civic and went out and bought her an Austin Marina. Needless to say, that marriage didn't last. Not only that, but the Marina always represented the symbolism of the failed marriage.
I say, let her buy the car and don't bug her about her decision. Just say nice things about it, buy her some flowers once in a while and you might keep the steady supply of sex flowing!
 
#24 ·
yeah hondas are very reliable cars, my grandfather has a 91 accord and he has made it a habit of using his left foot for the brakes and the right foot for only the gas about a year since he got the car, and somehow he only had to fix the brakes once and the car still runs really good. also hondas have a huge after market, so you can do more with honda engines, my friend had an acura integra gsr and he had the engine rebuilt(not exactly sure what he did), and he didnt bolt on a turbo or nitrous but he could beat salleens.

the cons of hondas? not much unfortunately, more "ricers" own hondas than any other brand, del sols can be called "del slows", vtec engines dont last as long, but mostly cause the people who have them are very hard on them. i just dont like hondas and would never buy one cause too many people have them.
 
#25 ·
Also worth pointing out, (And Im not sure if this holds with Nissan's as well.), but Honda engine parts are interchangeable allowing you to build an engine from stock junkyard parts that fits almost any driving style you chose. I have a friend with a bastardized engine built by combining parts from his Civics engine with parts from the CRV. Noit really sure on details.