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NickZac said:
Ehh, they arent that bad if done right. Once they reach supertuner status is when they seem to break often. And as far as Honda v. Nissan, newer entry level Hondas (Sivics) and newer entry level Nissans (Sentras) both have more problems now then they did years ago.
very true... as an aside... i had 0 problems with my sentra... but i know a lot of people unhappy with the mexican build quality of the sentras... consumer reports did not recommend it this year...
 
Ill keep off the DSM track as Ive yet to see a reliable one.

But as far as Nissan vs. Honda I think they are VERY comparable. Both are worlds more reliable then a lot of other options. I own a Nissan (Hardbody), but would probably be SLIGHTLY biased to the Honda end. I have seen some Hondas take absolutely stupid amounts of abuse and never have an issue. Frankly it baffles me as any car I've had would easy break under what some friends have put their Civics and Accords through.

And just because a car has more TQ doesnt mean it's faster. There are plenty of cars that Im sure have far more tq then my friends GSR. And the first few times I rode in his car it simply felt slow. I wasn't until he tore onto the hiway and I was watching the speedo that I realized just haw fast the damn thing was.
 
The best advice is to let her buy what she wants to buy. What's wrong with Hondas anyways? Just cause we both might have boners for Nissan product doesn't mean that everyone we know should buy one. Besides, telling a woman what to do is not always a good idea. In 79 my dad took the money my mom had saved for a new Civic and went out and bought her an Austin Marina. Needless to say, that marriage didn't last. Not only that, but the Marina always represented the symbolism of the failed marriage.
I say, let her buy the car and don't bug her about her decision. Just say nice things about it, buy her some flowers once in a while and you might keep the steady supply of sex flowing!
 
yeah hondas are very reliable cars, my grandfather has a 91 accord and he has made it a habit of using his left foot for the brakes and the right foot for only the gas about a year since he got the car, and somehow he only had to fix the brakes once and the car still runs really good. also hondas have a huge after market, so you can do more with honda engines, my friend had an acura integra gsr and he had the engine rebuilt(not exactly sure what he did), and he didnt bolt on a turbo or nitrous but he could beat salleens.

the cons of hondas? not much unfortunately, more "ricers" own hondas than any other brand, del sols can be called "del slows", vtec engines dont last as long, but mostly cause the people who have them are very hard on them. i just dont like hondas and would never buy one cause too many people have them.
 
Also worth pointing out, (And Im not sure if this holds with Nissan's as well.), but Honda engine parts are interchangeable allowing you to build an engine from stock junkyard parts that fits almost any driving style you chose. I have a friend with a bastardized engine built by combining parts from his Civics engine with parts from the CRV. Noit really sure on details.
 
Rylinkus said:
bastardized
One of those words that isn't quite used enough :)

Applies to most modded Honda vehicles I see.
 
BlankgazeX said:
oh and BTW, switch nissan with infiniti parts and you will see a premium too, acura is a "halo" brand, parts cost more...

try and look up rims for a civic then for a sentra, tell me whats cheaper... nowe find a bodykit, how about lights???

thats what i thought...

is your brothers car a base integra? cause you arent driving a base sentra...
hey, he asked me to help diss so i help diss.

i like my bros car, it looks way sportier than mine and is a simialr year. his is a 91 integra gs(?) w/1.8L engine. it has something stupid like 210k miles on it and still runs well. then aganin, min has 194k and still runs well...so i dunno. i was comparing engine parts because those dont take a premium. he has a honda engine that uses honda parts. fair comparrison.

anyway, the REAL reason i dont like hondas is the way the seats are set up. i hate feeling like im sitting on the floor. nissans are much higher up and i prefer that. if i prefered sitting on the ground i might like hondas, but i dont use chopsticks at dinner and i dont sit on the floor. hondas are for people who are boycotting the use of chairs. lol

you should see us at the dinner table, the honda guy vs. the nissan guy...pretty funny stuff.
 
fugiot said:
I think the biggest deterrent for buying a honda would be the theft rate. Too easy to steal!....or so I've heard....
this is tru i've had friends who have locked their keys inside all of em drive hondas one is a s2000, accord, civic and a crv all of em i got into in 5 mins way to easy

Don
 
You always get more initially with the Nissan... Things like Spoilers, power windows, rear window defrosters etc..etc...are always extras on most Honda's. Check the list of options vs standard items... Nissan always has more standard options.

Not sure about the newer Civics..but they all used to have Timing Belts as opposed to the Nissan Timing chains... belts are supposed to be replaced every 60k, where as the chains are usually good for 120k+

Honda's are not bad cars at all... regradless of what some may say.

The other thing I don't like about them is pulling up to a stop light and being in the same car as 4 other people, this is especially true if you live in Southern CA or any big metro area for that matter...
 
The only thing I can say bad about the newer Civics are the transmissions. Simply said, they do not hold up. As said, you do get more with Nissan; I was looking at a used 2000 Civic EX with 60k miles, and I actually got a new 2002 Nissan SE-R for about the same price.
 
I think it's pretty funny we're dissing Hondas on a Nissan site. Possibly two of the most dependable cars on the road,throwing in Toyota for good measure. When,not too many years ago, our fathers would be dissing them simply because they're Japanese.
 
Will said:
I think it's pretty funny we're dissing Hondas on a Nissan site. Possibly two of the most dependable cars on the road,throwing in Toyota for good measure. When,not too many years ago, our fathers would be dissing them simply because they're Japanese.
what are you talkin about years ago just about every older person i know still disses on japanese cars because the big 3 (chevy, ford, dodge) have been dominated by the import scene with the japs producing excellent cars that they cant compete with

Don
 
sunnydet90 said:
what are you talkin about years ago just about every older person i know still disses on japanese cars because the big 3 (chevy, ford, dodge) have been dominated by the import scene with the japs producing excellent cars that they cant compete with

Don
you do realize the term "japs" is a derogatory racial slur
 
Depends on what you consider older sunntdet90. And I did say "not too many years ago". I thought maybe it was maturity in racial bigotry and prejudice but as ,myoung has pointed out,maybe not. But the quality of these Japanese cars has driven the American manufacturers to review and,in my opinion,seriously step up the quality of their products. Which is good for us all. The question is, again in my opinion, will they,the American manufacturers, continue too do so because I don't believe they are there yet. I'm not looking for a argument or trying to hijack this thread. Just stating my humble opinion. :cheers:
 
why cant we all get along and agree the Toyotas, Hondas, and our beloved nissans are great cars.

the fact is, the Japanese know how to make damn good cars. thats all. and it all depends on a person's pref.

btw, hey wes, you had an s2k, i love that car :thumbup: if i had one, itb's would be in order for sure. got pix of the s2k???
 
american car companies do make very good cars, there have been exceptions, but thats due to the U.S. automakers having to adjust to the globalization of the economy. Most american cars are good cars they have just been dragged down some by the exceptions. More recently, the american car companies have finally gotten used to the globalization thing and have revamped there vehicles to be more competitive.
 
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