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Ok the baseline was 186 whp. Then I added the following:

Unorthodox underdrive pulley (8 hp)
Aem short ram intake (removed Aem CAI) -7 hp
Nology hot wires (2-5 %)

Should be at around 191 whp right? Wrong. I dyno'd at 169 whp. I lost 17 whp. WTF?

I am thinking the hotwires dogged me down although the seat of the pants feel seems extremly quick and torquey.
 

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CLSentra said:
Ok the baseline was 186 whp. Then I added the following:

Unorthodox underdrive pulley (8 hp)
Aem short ram intake (removed Aem CAI) -7 hp
Nology hot wires (2-5 %)

Should be at around 191 whp right? Wrong. I dyno'd at 169 whp. I lost 17 whp. WTF?

I am thinking the hotwires dogged me down although the seat of the pants feel seems extremly quick and torquey.
The baseline for any b15 SE-R is not 186 whp. More like 150-160 whp. The number you got was for HP at crank, not whp. So, you are over stock whp and should be happy!
 

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CLSentra said:
Ok the baseline was 186 whp. Then I added the following:

Unorthodox underdrive pulley (8 hp)
Aem short ram intake (removed Aem CAI) -7 hp
Nology hot wires (2-5 %)

Should be at around 191 whp right? Wrong. I dyno'd at 169 whp. I lost 17 whp. WTF?

I am thinking the hotwires dogged me down although the seat of the pants feel seems extremly quick and torquey.
Nology Hot wires on a QR25..........Hummmmmmmmm
 

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lmfao how do you figure you had a baseline of 186whp? a crank pulley isn't any 8whp, nor is a short ram intake. 169whp for those mods is pretty damn good.

oh, and those nology hotwires prolly lost you some power, if anything....the stock ignition system is far more than you need for bolt ons and even nitrous.
 

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lmfao how do you figure you had a baseline of 186whp? a crank pulley isn't any 8whp, nor is a short ram intake. 169whp for those mods is pretty damn good.

oh, and those nology hotwires prolly lost you some power, if anything....the stock ignition system is far more than you need for bolt ons and even nitrous.[/QUO

Base 186 whp is what I dyno'd previously. Mod's at that time where header, cat back exhaust, and cai.
 

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lmfao how do you figure you had a baseline of 186whp? a crank pulley isn't any 8whp, nor is a short ram intake. 169whp for those mods is pretty damn good.

oh, and those nology hotwires prolly lost you some power, if anything....the stock ignition system is far more than you need for bolt ons and even nitrous.
the 8whp on the pulley is what unorthodox showed in their dyno.
 

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ok what dyno were you on before and what one were you on now, and were they calibrated properly?

shiet those nology wires may have LOST you power.
 

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the 8whp on the pulley is what unorthodox showed in their dyno.
also it wasnt 8 for the short ram it is -7. (minus)

read and understand the question please before you jump all over someone. these boards are to share info and help others right?
 

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also it wasnt 8 for the short ram it is -7. (minus)

read and understand the question please before you jump all over someone. these boards are to share info and help others right?
air temp caused the loss, if you went from a CAI to a short ram.....Nology hot wires ?????
 

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ok what dyno were you on before and what one were you on now, and were they calibrated properly?

shiet those nology wires may have LOST you power.
right.. that is what I think. I bought them directly from nology and will take back. it was dyno'd on the same one that dyno'd before. It cost me $100 each dyno session so I need to make the right moves.
 

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air temp caused the loss, if you went from a CAI to a short ram.....Nology hot wires ?????
I factored that in my equation minus -7 whp . Although when they dyno it the hood is up and a large fan blowing in front of the car. You would alsmost think the short ram would work better under that condition.
 

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Still you get heat from the radiator
 

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what kind of dyno was it? it could've been calibrated improperly both times, overestimating you yesterday and underestimating you today...
 

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what kind of dyno was it? it could've been calibrated improperly both times, overestimating you yesterday and underestimating you today...
I did think of that... It was a dynonamics. They claim it is the most accurate.
 

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dyno dynamics? most accurate? lol.

Mustang dynos, when properly set, are by far more accurate than dynojet, dyno dynamics, or any of the other ones.

whether it was accurate or not on your dynos is up for debate too because it may not have been properly calibrated.
 

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So what are all your mods? If you only have the header, exhaust, short ram, hot wires, pulley, you should be nowhere near 186 nor 191. People with all the bolt ons possible are reaching 180 if that.
 

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CLSentra said:
Ok the baseline was 186 whp. Then I added the following:

Unorthodox underdrive pulley (8 hp)
Aem short ram intake (removed Aem CAI) -7 hp
Nology hot wires (2-5 %)

Should be at around 191 whp right? Wrong. I dyno'd at 169 whp. I lost 17 whp. WTF?

I am thinking the hotwires dogged me down although the seat of the pants feel seems extremly quick and torquey.
UO pully gives about 1-2 WHP (real idea of it is to lighten weight)
You are not losing 7 from going CAI to short ram
If your car is a 2004 (and some 2003 models), grounding is hurting you
What mods do you have? When you did the dyno were you using N2O?
As said, Mustang is most accurate, the dynojets are pretty off.

Ive seen people with
I/H/DP/E/P/MMI/SS/C/BSR/TB/KS/SAFC2 only dyno in the 180s
 

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no, the nology hot wires aren't grounding wires...they're a waste of money on like ignition crap.
 

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UO pully gives about 1-2 WHP (real idea of it is to lighten weight)
You are not losing 7 from going CAI to short ram
If your car is a 2004 (and some 2003 models), grounding is hurting you
What mods do you have? When you did the dyno were you using N2O?
As said, Mustang is most accurate, the dynojets are pretty off.

Ive seen people with
I/H/DP/E/P/MMI/SS/C/BSR/TB/KS/SAFC2 only dyno in the 180s
heres the deal. Initially I had header, cat back, cai and it dyno'd at 176 whp. then added apex safc and it went to 186. I then added the UO pulley, hotwires and changed the cai to short ram and it dyno'd at 169. The hot wires did come with a ground that goes to the negative battery post. I think I am with chimike and maybe the dyno calibration is jacked. Bottom line as of now the car feels the best it ever has with tons of torque and power.
 

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chimmike said:
no, the nology hot wires aren't grounding wires...they're a waste of money on like ignition crap.
Oh yea, arent they supposed to increase sparkplug performance or some crap although the QR doesnt have wires?
 
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