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Should i convert it to a dune buggy?

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I know you guys or gals may not like me destroying a b13 but I have a crazy idea to convert it to a dune buggy type of vehicle. What do you guys think?

I would take the whole front of the car (engine, tranny, suspension) and put it on the rear of a tubular frame set-up.

I would like to see what you guys think.

This will not happen for another couple of months (working on a probe) also i would like to wait for some warmer weather. Also i want to hit the 200,000 mile mark first also.

I would like your input and also because i will not have boatloads of money to stick in it some people here would feel like contributing to it. That could be parts or even cash.

But again this is still an idea and i would like to get an idea of what i am getting into.

Thanks for your thoughts.

P.S. If i should post this some place else to get more views would one of the moderators let me know and i will repost it there.
 

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hells no! turn that mofo into a rally car dude. raise it a little and toss some bigger wheels on. it will be bad ass.
 

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DUNE BUGGY. my b13 is a monster off road, i couldnt imagine if it was a dune buggy :eek:
 

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Just why?? Why would you waste one and why do it with something complicated. A Dune Buggy needs to be simplistic so that if something breaks it can easily be fixed. Use an engine with a Carb so you don't need a whole TON of wiring. And a bv13 front suspension? talk about lack of travel.
An SR20 would be great in a dune buggy but it seems like a waste plus a major wire nightmare.
 

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i knew it would be a lot of wiring but a bunch of my friends one night thought it would be awsome to put that little engine (to cut down on weight) and put it on the rear of a tub frame. If and if i start it though i will have pictures lots and lots of pictures.
 

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i knew it would be a lot of wiring but a bunch of my friends one night thought it would be awsome to put that little engine (to cut down on weight) and put it on the rear of a tub frame. If and if i start it though i will have pictures lots and lots of pictures.
When I think of a dune buggy, the last thing I think of is how impressive it would be if I could shave off a whole 200 lbs by using Nissan motor VS a 350 Chevy motor. Cost difference when you trash your tranny (cause you know the nissan tranny isn't going to last with baha tires), you're not going to have much fun replacing it or constantly repairing it. So, back to when I think of a dune buggy- I think of simple: Tube frame, basic independant suspension, a bucket seat, and a powerhouse and drive train. This is going to look way messed up having a fuel injected dune buggy that has to have all these extra panels to hide an ecu, wiring, and a ton of vaccume lines.

Hate to sound like a drag here, but, you'll be much happier building a dune buggy with (don't flame me for saying this) either an American (if you can still call them that) made motor and tranny. I'd say, hit a junk yard up for an old Chevy that has rusted to hell, pull the motor and tranny and steering components, and retro fit them to your dune buggy.

One more thing to consider here when you're talking about cutting weight by using a Nissan motor for your buggy. What is a dune buggy used for. Does it need decent torque in the low and high ends? And what is the replacement for dispacement? Weight to power ratios. When you think about how much wheel HP you'll be getting by the time it's done, to the wieght of the vehicle, you must then consider the size of those tires, what get's it going? Torque. A 1.6 stock will put out a whopping 75 Ft/lbs from a dead stop. If you are using huge tires on big rims and add the resistance of in general off road sands and dirt, you're probably going to end up wishing for about 185 Ft/lb torque as a minimum when it's said and done. Sounds like a lot, but this isn't a street car with 13" rims pushing 4 21" TD wheels on a low/no resistance paved street. Physics will dictate this situation to say, don't waste your time. You'll blow more money retrofitting the Nissan, then repairing snapped trannies every 5 miles it's played with. Now, on the other hand, if you used a DOHC V6, you'll be much closer to finding what you're looking for(Manual Pathfinder in junkyard?). If you want it to be fast, and fun, you'll still end up wishing for an easy to tune and repair small block V8.

Would the project be fun, YES, it would be a blast. However, it will not prove practical, or financially functional in the long run. If you do persue the project, I wish you luck. :cool:
 

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*long whistle* thats a whole lot of words.

i agree, if you go dune buggy you want power and strength. finess will get trashed offroad. your best bet would be to get a big displacement carbuorated V8 with a 4wd tranny, then you'll have a buggy worth bragging about.

if you want a little gravel road monster, raise the suspention a little and put big tires on it. nothing more.
 

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Well i kid of chagnged what i want

I decicde you guys are right and there is no way it will ever be an 0ff-road machine but...

i figured i could make a fun road legal tube framed rear-mounted engine "go-cart" The car itself goes 100+mph with the weight i have now just imagine 300-400lbs lighter? :rolleyes:

That would be a fun machine and then maybe on top of it throw in a cheap turbo that thing would smoke alot of cars out there.
 

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the_new_kid said:
I decicde you guys are right and there is no way it will ever be an 0ff-road machine but...

i figured i could make a fun road legal tube framed rear-mounted engine "go-cart" The car itself goes 100+mph with the weight i have now just imagine 300-400lbs lighter? :rolleyes:

That would be a fun machine and then maybe on top of it throw in a cheap turbo that thing would smoke alot of cars out there.
uhm...reducing weight will not increase top speed. the top speed is limited by either a computer or gearing, or both. our cars physical limitation due to gearing is 125-130 at redline (speed varries with wheel size)
 

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i would say sell your b13, and find an old b12 clunker, something without all the crap and idiot lights.....something carbed. a VW engine perhaps, build a tub frame and also rebuild the bug engine. those things have 4 wires in and out of the engine max (go to "general and read "my new project car") you can also turbo them.
 
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