true, but GB are always around, and there great :thumbup:psuLemon said:unless there is a clearence or groupbuy, in the case of performance in cars, i can't think of one..
i was looking for that quote...........that will go down in history. :thumbup:psuLemon said:and stealin a quote from mike young, dont go callin balogna a filet mignon
refer to thisTavel said:after reading all these posts im still confused about one thing. i dont care about HP gains much, but i do care about parts failing. is the weapon r's desighn prone to failure? like the materials composition and structure.
will the WR compare to the HS in terms of longevity or MTBF? (again ignore HP gains). im thinking that if the lowered cost is only at expense of HP then that's something im very willing to give up. but if its giving up real quality then im not willing to give it up.
I believe there are some expensive cars using SS headers and exhaust. SS exhausts are very common in Europe because of all the rust, almost all exhaust shops in England were selling SS replacements a long time ago.1.6pete said:I remember a problem;
because the header is 100% stainless and stainless dissapates heat at a high rate of speed it can crak on cool down. this happens mainly in the winter and for you it would be even worse (you live in cold ass central :thumbup: ) think of it like this, for those of you that have ever taken a ceramics class how long does it take to put your work in a kiln then take it back out? a few days right? because you put it in and heat it up, then you need to wait and heat cycle it so you dont get any strees cracks. one way to prevent this would be to wrap the WR in racing heat wrap. but it could still happen, and i think this is HS main reason for the coated mild steel.
This is totally wrong. Stainless is a good material to use on a header which is why the HS Gen. 6 SR20 header is all stainless, it is also why the HS turbo manifolds are stainless. Problems arise when stainless is not welded with the correct rod...1.6pete said:I remember a problem;
because the header is 100% stainless and stainless dissapates heat at a high rate of speed it can crak on cool down. this happens mainly in the winter and for you it would be even worse (you live in cold ass central :thumbup: ) think of it like this, for those of you that have ever taken a ceramics class how long does it take to put your work in a kiln then take it back out? a few days right? because you put it in and heat it up, then you need to wait and heat cycle it so you dont get any strees cracks. one way to prevent this would be to wrap the WR in racing heat wrap. but it could still happen, and i think this is HS main reason for the coated mild steel.
:cheers: I totally agree!1CLNB14 said:Now, I know that this might piss some people off....but,
If you are really into getting what you can out of the GA16DE, the Hotshot header is a waste of money...
Just throw that $450 into a fund and save up for the Hotshot turbo kit.
It's (boost) the only way to get any real power out of the GA16DE.
1.6pete, I still don't see any facts...![]()