Well I got a ticket last night. On my way home there is a hill with a sement divider about 5inches tall and a foot wide seperating the 2 one way lanes. Its also on a hill, I came around the corner shifted down and munched one the gas. Hit some water spun out and wipped around. My ass end was all over the place next thing I know im hicenterd on the divider. Cop saw it all was lauphing his ass off at me when I said I wasnt speeding. He said they had just laid down that liquid de-icer and a few people were slipping but no one had managed to do it while down shifting. I think it was partly becuase of a manhole cover too I have spun my tires on those as well. Any way just scratch my frame up no real damage sept my pride nothing like standing next to your rig as it blocks off traffic hicenterd on a divider,during rush hour I got a few whistles and cheers and Fingers too. 150$ ticket speeding(55ina25) and 50$ for the tow truck to pull my dumbass off the curb.