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I tried installing my short shifter today. But unfortunately I couldn't figure out a way to take off the pipe before the converter. everything else looks pretty easy. But how do u guys reccommend doing this. At the time, I only had the jack from my car and 2 jack stands. unfortunately, the jack from the car wouldn't even lift the car high enough to put it on the jackstands. I was at a friends house and thought that bringing my jack would be pointless. unfortunately, i was so very wrong and didn't have much working room. I ended up using those blocks u drive up on to. Just let me know what u guys recommend doing. Do u think I should order an ES Shifter Bushing and put it all on at the same time?
 

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when i installed my smc shifter, i removed the catalytic converter and the exhaust piece following, to give me all the room i needed. all i should be is two bolts the screw into the cat from both sides. also when i put my shifter in, i had to cut the heat sheld, i took me two times to get it right, you my just want to cut a pretty big whole to begin with. with the es bushing that's up to you, i've got mine after i put my shifter in, and i'm waiting to get bord one day to put it in. good luck...adam
 

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When I put mine in, I had to replace the Down Pipe anyways... so I took it off and was able to just detach the exhaust around the cat area. It hung down far enough that I had plenty of room to work.

I installed the ES bushing at the same time so I don't know if it did anything for feel or not... but now's the time to do the install if you ever want to do it.
 

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there is a shield around the cat right? and then there are 2 bolts on each side. to take off that cat thats all u have to do? and thats right below the heat shield right? I tried to take it off before the cat. 2 huge bolts. Unfortunately, I couldn't produce the man power to loosen them. Also, a socket couldn't fit on that even after taking off those insulated shields. So I didn't really know what I could do in order to get it to work. Still need some help cuz I don't exactly know what I'm going to do.
 

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Get under there and spray all 4 bolts (before and after the cat) with some WD 40 or PB blaster. Let them soak and spray them again. Then take the appropriate size breaker bar and take off either the front or back nuts. Only take off whichever side will losen and then support the pipe out of the way. This will give you access to the heatshield, once you remove that you have access to everything yu need access too. I wouldn't try this job without some WD 40 and a breaker bar as some of those bolts can get pretty stuck if you know what I mean!
 

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azkicker0027 said:
i just ordered a b&m short shifter kit and energy suspension shifter bushings, and i am looking for any info anyone can provide, thanks..........
Who did you get the bushing from? How much $? I think I need one. :(
 

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If you don't mind working in a tight space you don't have to remove the CAT or the downpipe. Just remove them from the supporting brackets and let it hang down. The space is tight but it can be done.

Why did anyone have to cut their heat shield?? I just slid mine back....
 

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i did spray some wd40.. it was still a pain. the only thing is, i didn't have my regular supply of tools so i couldn't really do the job. oh well, maybe i'll try at my house instead haha
 
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Yes it can be done by just taking the exhaust off of the support brackets, however it is much easier to just take the exhaust off. The heat shield only has 4 nuts on it and comes off.... The best thing to do is to put in your short shifter when putting a new exhaust on... You already have it almost removed when you do that....
 

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Well I don't really feel like spending the money on an exhaust system. I'm saving for a swap but until then I'd like to put the short shifter on. If I have it, why not ya know? how much room do you think i'd get out of just taking it off the brackets? I should have done it.. I loosened the brackets but didn't take them completely off because I didn't want to go through all that if I couldn't install the short shifter and not be able to take off the exhaust. But if it can be done, maybe I should do it
 

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You should be fine if you just disconnect the downpipe from the cat... and disconnect that can from it's hangers. A fairly easy job... basically you just want to get enough room to work.
 
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