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Please tell me in detail how to replace transmission fluid on a 2015 Rogue. Can Valvoline fluid be used instead of NS3? My car had 103,000 mi, had not previously had a transmission fluid change and the transmission had no problems. I brought the car to Valvoline shop to change the oil and transmission fluid. Valvoline did not warn me that the change of fluid could cause a transmission failure as the fluid was old. Valvoline changed my oil and transmission fluid in 30 minutes right after I arrived at the shop without waiting for the tranny to cool down. I was in the car the entire time. I was charged for 20 pints of fluid. The transmission failed after 200 miles. What do you think happened? an the tranny fluid be safely changed in 20 minutes while I was in the car?
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Please tell me in detail how to replace transmission fluid on a 2015 Rogue. Can Valvoline fluid be used instead of NS3? My car had 103,000 mi, had not previously had a transmission fluid change and the transmission had no problems. I brought the car to Valvoline shop to change the oil and transmission fluid. Valvoline did not warn me that the change of fluid could cause a transmission failure as the fluid was old. Valvoline changed my oil and transmission fluid in 30 minutes right after I arrived at the shop without waiting for the tranny to cool down. I was in the car the entire time. I was charged for 20 pints of fluid. The transmission failed after 200 miles. What do you think happened? an the tranny fluid be safely changed in 20 minutes while I was in the car?
Sounds like they overfilled it. Overfilling is CVT-death, it causes the fluid to foam and form hot-spots on the belt and pulleys which quickly trash the belt. Most places will charge you for 5 qts, but the tranny will only need about 4. You're supposed to pull the leveling plug and let the excess back out until the level is correct. They probably just dumped in 5 quarts and called it good.
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I also don’t have any record of what the temperature was when they put it in. I’ve heard that is also very important.
Not nearly as important as not overfilling. Opening the leveling plug while cold will simply leave the fluid a little short, which is fine. Nissan/Jatco CVT's won't even notice half a quart under, it will just make the fluid wear out a little faster. Half a quart over is a death sentence.
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If the tranny is already warm, probably 30 minutes. Figure 20 for the spill-and-fills and then 10 more to get the tranny temp back up and crack the plug. It's much longer with a cold tranny unless you raise the temperature artificially with a torque converter stall.
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Can the oil change add to the time or is it done at the same time as the tranny change? If it takes 10 minutes to drive to the shop, how long to cool the tranny down?
They can be drained simultaneously. Ten minutes isn't a very long drive for purposes of warming the tranny, but it should have been warm enough for changing, probably 120~130F when you arrived.
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Overfilling? It only becomes an issue when you go too far. A pint, or two, will not hurt
anything. Half to a full quart, can cause those issues, foaming and so forth.
Even a pint can hurt a CVT in the long look. But otherwise I totally agree, spill-measure-fill. As long as your tranny doesn't leak, you can't go wrong with that regardless of tranny type.
Did mine Thursday. Only got 3.5 out, but I put 4 in.
Could be a mistake. Watch your fluid temperature like a hawk, because they really hate being overfull.
Using the factory procedure requires the car being level and basically the same sorts of strictures as using the overflow plug. It's not necessary under any normal circumstances, unless you have a leak. For regular DIY maintenance, just replace exactly what you take out.
Do it right the FIRST time
"Right" is a relative term. The FSM procedure is fine, but for routine maintenance it isn't necessary...
and you won't have to do it over.
...and since it does need to be done "over and over" but we're not talking about mowing the grass, the potential for a DIYer without a lift making mistakes and hurting his tranny instead of helping it is greatly increased. I see dead trannies literally every day in the shop, and some percentage of them are always some well-meaning DIYer who overfilled the damn thing.
Do it right the FIRST time, and you won't have to do it over.
Your lawn must look like a war zone, since I presume you mowed it right it right once.
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You're a genuine PIP...
Refer to Mark Twain about fools and onlookers. He might not have actually said it, but the sentiment is correct. I'm unfollowing this thread, you have the town square all to yourself.
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