Considering they both have a 30 day money back guarentee, that sounds like a good route :thumbup: Play with them a bit, see which one you find more user friendly. If you need help tweaking either of them, I'll be glad to assist you.HEAVENS PAIN said:What I will do is I will get both and test them out. I like how the valentine 1 looks but I need the one that work the best 80 west and east is no joke. With the monthly tickets I get I can get both one of these bad boys will save me crazy money :cheers:
Damn. Now that is smart. You get mad props. :thumbup:kit said:If you're worried about a cop taking your radar detector try this
keep a UPS envolope with your address or a freind address,if a cop pulls you over grab the radar (and the cord if you can cause they can take it) throw it in the envolope and seal it. most states won't allow cops to open mail without a warrant and most cops won't bother getting one :cheers:
That isnt necessarily POP but I am not saying that it isnt either. POP isnt that widespread yet and is a patended design of Bee IIRC. IIRC current law will not let cops write tickets with just POP mode, whereas they can using an Instant On gun. IIRC the POP burst is even faster than instant on which is why older V1s would pick up IO, but not POP.craigqc said:v1 just added new technology that is more sensitive to p.o.p. radar (instant on). i get it all the time in advance. i get a faint warning a mile or so ahead, silence for a few seconds, a stronger signal, silence, an even stronger signal, and so on. the arrows are all coming from ahead so i know a cop is ahead switchin his radar on and off. i can only get nabbed if he leaves his radar off for like five minutes and i am the car he pops. but at least my chances of that happening are lessened. im happy.
thanks for the clarificationNickZac said:That isnt necessarily POP but I am not saying that it isnt either. POP isnt that widespread yet and is a patended design of Bee IIRC. IIRC current law will not let cops write tickets with just POP mode, whereas they can using an Instant On gun. IIRC the POP burst is even faster than instant on which is why older V1s would pick up IO, but not POP.
No problem mate. Summed up thou, if you have the X50 or V1.8, your running under the best protection out their :thumbup:craigqc said:thanks for the clarification
I toyed with a V1.7, but am yet to with a V1.8. To what I understand, the 1.8 has improved in what the 1.7 lacked, KA sensativity, instant on and pop3. IMO the V1 has always been the best for LIDAR detection and facts prove it is the ultimate champ of X band (about 2 times the second best). SML (Speed Measurement Labs) found the V1.8 and X50 almost identical in performance with the X50 slightly better in KA and V1 in X. I'de love to do an objective test but I dont believe in mounting detectors side by side and running simultaneously. I think only one should ever be tested at the same time due to the possibility of interference (LIDAR is the exception as sunlight can affect LIDAR significantly so testing at 2 different times may not be objective). Car and Driver aparently didnt think testing alone was a good idea in 2002 and I believe this may have hurt the 8500's points. If the 8500 did not suffer from some type of interference, then somebody down the road lied. Considering that every other magazine was in sharp contrast to Car and Driver's review (including my own toying), this in my opinion really hurt their credentials (not just in terms of testing electronics but prettymuch in terms of any review they did as their radar test was so far off). Consequently, I did not renew my subscription. (In a related story, the brother or C&D, Road and Track has made some statements which are completely untrue and has showed a lot of bias towards certain companies and products. They will not be seeing a subscription renewel from me either.)craigqc said:yeah but i still feel that the v1 is ribbed for my pleasure. its all a prefrence i suppose.
i would like to see someone buy both and do a head to head comparison. i have yet to see it done on any boards. tell us the results and return the one that sucks. easy as that