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Already tried the 'unplug and see' trick. I suspect my o2 sensor is trashed, but the ecu throws no codes, even if I unplug it. I think my car does run rich, I smell an abundance of fuel while it runs in the motor area. It never tripped the CE light, so I dunno if its supposed to and didn't, making me wonder if my ECU is jackked or what.

O2 sensor failures do not set CEL's, why would it? it has no control over what the car does, the computer doesn't know its not working, it thinks the motor is messed up not the O2 sensor. when an O2 sensor fails the ecu read it as the engine is running lean, so it adds more fuel, over time this will change the fuel trim for the vehicle and eventually set a CEL for a lean engine, but the length of time needed to do that is not the same for all cars so i couldn't tell you

your ecu is fine, the only way to test an O2 sensor on an OBD1 car is with a digital multimeter and a t-pin, stick the t-pin into the signal wire of the O2 sensor (idk which one it is one your car, if its a 3 wire connector, slide the t-pin into the connector next to the wire, then attach the multimeter and with the car running check the voltage (set the meter to read DC voltage on a scale of 0-1v, if its working properly it should go below 200mV, and aboce 800mV

Maybe it's the hottest or leanest?
In our beloved vw bugs n°4 was the hottest because it was offset from the cooling air flow...

the temperature if the cylinder has ablsoultly nothing to do with the reading, that just choose to put the sensor there, and there isn't a rich or lean cylinder, they all change from rich ot lean

 

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Thanks a lot :thumbup:

no prob i'm taking an emissions diagnosis class, so if theres one thing i know bout cars it how the sensors work and how to check them...all of them....for any car

 

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I've seen a stock exhaust from a certain car (don't know make or model)
It had a single wire O2 sensor and has another single wire coming from what seems to be a thermometer (what other sensor could it be?)
If it's a thermometer, what kind of signal could I read with my dmm?
Thanks in advance

in that case u need to find the power wire for the sensor, its a resistor type and the signal would come from the main power wire, becasue the sensor uses the threads to ground itself.

 

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So I should read ohms...
Thanks

no not ohms read voltage

 

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what kind of car is it? i think the only cars with exhaust temp sensors are diesels, where exactly on the exhaust stream are these two sensors?

 

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A diesel... Only cars I've seen there were gasoline
Both were located just after primary tubes merge
I'll get a couple pics

hmmmm.diesel..yeah i'll need the pics