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Discussion Starter · Aug 13, 2002

I plan on turbocharging my 96 200sx se-r however i was wondering if you all think that i t would be advantagious to swap in either a bluebird or GTiR engine or just buy a turbo kit. I am hoping to make 350-400 hp and was wondering which choice would be more cost effective, reliable and easier to install.

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99.se.ltd

· #2 · Aug 13, 2002

might have better luck on www.sr20deforum.com

Ninety-Nine SE-L

· #3 · Aug 13, 2002

well if you already have the 2.0L engine, you may as well put the turbo on that. there's no sense in ripping out a perfectly fine SR20 to put in another SR20 with a turbo already bolted on.

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Discussion Starter · #4 · Aug 13, 2002

i would suggest going for the swap instead of the turbo upgrade... the sr20det has stronger internals than the sr20de... so by the time you finish upgrading your internals, ignition system, fuel system, and dropping the turbo kit... you'll also spend less on the swap...

nss200sx

· #5 · Aug 13, 2002

yea juss do the swap and then upgrade the turbo on it....

Black200SXSER

· #6 · Aug 13, 2002

Wait a sec.the SR20 can handle up to 400 whp on the stock internals. Is it adviseable to push that limit.? no..Buy the kit and throw on with everything else you will need. You already have all the correct sensors on the car, and you wont need to replace the waterpump, and bearings on your motor...you would have to on the DET. The BB DET isnt any stronger than the regular US spec SR20..but the GTi-R is stronger. Sodium filled valves, and stronger connecting rods..as well as factory installed oil squirters...so you NED this...? no, like I said, you can safely hit 350-400 HP on stock bottom end..as I got closer to 400, then start considering beefing up the bottom end.

Either way, you will need to replace your clutch with a stronger one if you havent already, as well as tapping the block for the turbo oil lines. And if you get a kit like the F max you can get the FMIC, and all the piping...theres alot more, but just thought Id give you the correct info...Swaps are good, but you can accomplish your goal with the kit. (dont forget emmissions in your state if applicable)

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1CLNB14

· #7 · Aug 13, 2002

The US SR20DE has a much higher compression.
The lower compression on the BB DET is made for boost...

Black200SXSER

· #8 · Aug 13, 2002 (Edited)

the US SR spec is 9.5:1..?? The GTi-R is 8.3:1..edit* and the BB DET is 8.5:1.......9.5:1 is not really considered high compression..10:1, 10.5:1 and 11-12:1 are..

1CLNB14

· #9 · Aug 13, 2002

But it is higher than the BB DET.

Hell, I would just do the kit if it were me. I was just stating a difference in the motors....

Oh, also the oil squirters in the pistons....

Black200SXSER

· #10 · Aug 13, 2002

cool..the BB DET doesnt have the oil squirters.just he GTi-R.jsut for clarification purposes...Id do the kit as well...just for less hassles..

1CLNB14

· #11 · Aug 13, 2002

Black200SXSER said:
cool..the BB DET doesnt have the oil squirters.just he GTi-R.jsut for clarification purposes...Id do the kit as well...just for less hassles..

Hmmm, the BB DET we swapped in the 200SX has squirters.

Black200SXSER

· #12 · Aug 13, 2002

you are correct.my bad...

1CLNB14

· #13 · Aug 13, 2002

It's cool.

We went from a 1.6ltr to the BB DET.
If it were a SR20DE, we would of just went with the FMAX kit.

We just swapped in the rear axel/disc brakes from an SE-R onto it on Saturday. It already had the NX200 front calipers and rotors, but he needed even more stopping power.

Ninety-Nine SE-L

· #14 · Aug 14, 2002

cool, do you have any info on the SE-R rear axle swap? did you have to change the master cylinder?

1CLNB14

· #15 · Aug 14, 2002

The axel swap was very easy.
No master cylinder swap. Just a bit of fluid for when you bleed the lines.
There are 3 major bolts under the car, the 4 strut bolts, and that is about it.
The only issue we has was the clearance between the bolt on the trailing arm and the exhaust. It was very tight, and the socket had a hard time fitting in there.

Black200SXSER

· #16 · Aug 15, 2002

I replaced one for a guy I know that had hydraulics..the trailing arm snapped on him where the lower cup was welded in..anyway.it helps to get the car as high as possible for leverage..Impacts dont fit up in those spaces to well..

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Discussion Starter · #17 · Aug 16, 2002

bluebird has bigger injectors, turbo pistons, and all sorts of goodies that an sr20de doesnt have if you want as much hp as a bluebird with a turbo sr20 then you have to change alot of components

Ninety-Nine SE-L

· #18 · Aug 16, 2002

wow, I didn't know there was that much of a difference. I'm glad we got a disscussion going on this.

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Discussion Starter · #19 · Aug 17, 2002

hey guys... you ever heard of the quad throttle body upgrade for the GA16DE motor??? me and my team is thinking of building another b14 for show and street... and our homeboys in the philippines have seen those throttle bodies used on the motors there... our budget is limited on this one since it's not gonna be used to race... so chances are, we're only gonna be using parts we can get in the usa (for now)...

wickedsr20de

· #20 · Aug 18, 2002

I would swap the motor. You can get a motor for half the price of a f-max kit. It is not that hard to swap out the sensors from your stock sr20 --only hard thing is changing the rod bearings which is suggested I mean if you know what you doing and do it yourself. But you know if you go the money buy a plsar Gtir det and put a f-max kit on it---I wonder if anyone did that yet.

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