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no doubt..thats why people step up to t4, t60, t71 turbos. if you run high boost on a small turbo the wheel will be going so fast it will negate the advantage of the turbo by making the air so hot it causes damage.
is the hs turbo for me?
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the HS kit is pretty complete.. i glanced thru real quick its like $3000 comes w/ the turbo, intercooler and necessary stuff like BOV, etc. also comes w/ upgraded clutch, lightened flywheel, they will pay for JWT to tune your stock ECU to their specs, higher-rate fuel injectors, filter, guages w/ pod mount. supports up to 280hp and 20 lbs. of boost. of course thats what the turbo can support, youd have to build your motor to run that kind of boost... but just to give you an idea of how complete the HS kit is. BTW, "ALL ITEMS INTENDED FOR OFF ROAD USE ONLY." which would probably mean no smog legal, so if you live in CA, youre gonna have to have a good buddy at the local smog shop or somethin
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youre right. sorry
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More info.
Chef used a straight T4.
As for a listing. There are 2 reasons a list does not exist.
1. EVERY application is different, that would make for many lists, not one.
2. If you are going to spend your money ona turbo you should RESEARCH what your getting in too. That way, once the turbo is installed, you know or at least have an idea of how it works and the potential issues.
As for a kit that is 100% complete, it just isn't feasible. Look at HS for example. They only make the PIPING. The rest of the components they purchase from someone else. They go through all of that purchasing and supporting someone else's product to offer a pretty complete kit. Just imagine how much they woudl charge $$$ if they included the clutch, flywheel, and ECU.
Again not all apps. are the same, so not only do the ECU parameters vary, so would the clutch requirements!
Chef used a straight T4.
As for a listing. There are 2 reasons a list does not exist.
1. EVERY application is different, that would make for many lists, not one.
2. If you are going to spend your money ona turbo you should RESEARCH what your getting in too. That way, once the turbo is installed, you know or at least have an idea of how it works and the potential issues.
As for a kit that is 100% complete, it just isn't feasible. Look at HS for example. They only make the PIPING. The rest of the components they purchase from someone else. They go through all of that purchasing and supporting someone else's product to offer a pretty complete kit. Just imagine how much they woudl charge $$$ if they included the clutch, flywheel, and ECU.
Again not all apps. are the same, so not only do the ECU parameters vary, so would the clutch requirements!
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I like the HS 1.6 turbo kit, and plan on buying one. The only question I have, is if the turbo is water cooled or not. I see no mention of water cooling on their site. If it is not water cooled, I would imagine that a turbo timer would be mandatory for long turbo life. Anyone agree?
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pretty sure it's not water cooled....anyone know the size of the turbo?
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well...im not a turbo expert but i'm pretty sure non ball bearing turbos are oil cooled/lubricated, and ball bearing turbos are water cooled.
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eh...well it depends if you want new or used. hks has what is the equivalent of a t28 and it's around $1500. ball bearing turbos are seriously expensive, but bc there is less friction occuring they make more hp.
The reason non-ball bearing turbos are oil cooled is because the exhaust side and compressor side are linked together by a rod through the middle of the whole assembly that spins in a cylinder lined with engine oil to provide lubrication instead of ball bearings. So while they lube the turbo with engine oil why not cool it with engine oil at the same time. It saves a little money in design.
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*****From the www.hotshot.com website: The turbo is a special hybrid T28 with a large turbine and a big .86 a/r turbine housing that flows more than many T3's but with the T25's lower mass and quicker spool. The compressor is a big T3.Katana200sx said:
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What do you mean water cooled...it has an oil line running to it... *****If you remember the '83 Pulsar turbo, it came through without a water cooled turbo. Yes, the oil cools the turbo, as it lubricates it, but if you are lazy [or absent minded] and shut off the car without letting it idle for a few minutes to cool the red hot turbo, the engine oil literally "cooks" on the shaft inside the turbo. This cokes up the shaft, and in turn destroys the seals. Early turbo failure is the result of this. Nissan later came out with a water cooled upgrade for the Pulsar NX turbo [maybe the 200SX too- I don't remember]. I remember installing the Nissan retrofit kits, with the turbo unit, that had the water cooled center section built in, and the new metal coolant lines. That solved the problem. Then you could be a shlep, and still have the turbo last a long time. This was in the eighties, maybe things have changed today, with better oils and such.
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