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HOW TO: A'PEXi SAFC II, X-Trail QR25DE

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Ok it is finally here:
Here is my humble "how to" for the installation of A'PEXi SAFC II on X-Trail 2005 QR25DE engine (Canadian Edition):

** This write-up does not cover the initial set up configuration and tuning of the SAFC II. This should be done by a knowledgable tech.
** Also take note that once your SAFC is installed and powered you should immediately do initial set-up before starting the engine.

** Warning:
- Not for the faint at heart.
- Knowledgeable and at ease with wiring & soldering is a must.
- Not responsible for "screw ups".

I can't say it enough: Read, Re-Read, and PLEASE Read again ALL documents supplied by A'PEXi with the unit.

Find a suitable location for mounting the unit.
I located mine in the hidden double door compartment below the climate controls. (see below)


Take off some side panelling to find a suitable route for the cable.

Access the ECM location by:
- removing the "lower panel" (part 27 in picture) snaps in only
- removing the "glove box" (part 31 in picture) by removing two holding pins (part 32 in picture)
- removing the "glove box cover" (part 36 in picture) held in place by a quantity of 6 screws (part 3 in picture)
(While taking this last part be careful not to pull apart the air bag connector)




So far these steps are the same as what is needed to access the "cabin air filter" (models equipped).

You should now be able to see the ECM as per below:


WARNING: Before disconnecting any ECM harness connector: YOU MUST Disconnect the batterie negative terminal.
(unfortunately this will screw up radio settings and clock :( )

Disconnect harness connectors as per pic below and carefully remove the protector covering the connectors.


Also carefully pull away some the black plastic wire covering; you should now be able to see clearly the pin connector and each wire.



Start identifying each wire color and confirm the terminal point number:

Terminal----car ECM--------------sensor------------------A'PEXi SAFC II
number----wire color---------------------------------------wire color

# 15---(wire color white)-------Knock sensor---------------color purple
# 50---(wire color white)-----Throttle position--------------color grey
# 51---(wire color orange)---Mass Air Flow sensor--------color white & color yellow

# 116--(wire color black)----------Ground------------color brown & color black
# 120--(wire color grey)-------Power Supply----------------color red
# 103--(---no wire----)--------Tach RPM-------------------color green



All SAFC wires tap onto ECM wires except for the MAF sensor;
MAF sensor wire is to be cut:
SAFC's yellow wire connects to ECM side of #51 orange wire
SAFC's white wire connects to car's MAF sensor side of orange wire

In the case of the car ECM RPM signal:
Some model years (in this case 2005) do not have a wire attached to the terminal # 103;
you therefore have to get inventive on how to insert a wire into the terminal # 103 and get a good connection. Some report heating wire end covered with solder and inserting it into the terminal socket, but I would prefer some other method; I have not figured that one out yet but as soon as I do I will write a follow up.
In the case of the SAFC ground wire: there are two wires (brown & black) that need to be connected to the same car ECM ground wire with only a small space between them (no less than 1 cm). Also note that the SAFC brown wire should be the one closer to the ECM side.

- The above wire color codes correspond to my 2005 X-trail with QR25DE Canadian Edition.
- Color codes for your particular car should be doubled check in your applicable service manual since they may not necessarily match.

Once all connections are done, soldered and secured, tidy up the harness, put back the insulation, button the harness back to the ECM and close up the area in the reverse order.

(I will be seeing my tuner/technician/chemist this coming thursday for proper tuning, and will report back on the improvements)

If you are interested in accessing my SAFC II on my page, here is the direct link:
"SAFC II"

There you go, I'm done. I hope this helps and is not too confusing...
Comments welcomed.
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Marc...

Can you please answer one question for me... and I am laughing while I am saying this... is your X-Trail not leased...? What does the dealer say to all your umm...mods... LOL

Stephen
What can I say ValBoo!?!?! Thanks a bunch!!

I've had my S-AFCII here with me for a few weeks but haven't gotten around to installing it since my headers has not arrived yet. But now that you've posted a very detailed report, I just had to open the box and look at the manual I got.

A few questions come up immediately. I'm not sure if they are reasonable ones. But I'll ask them nonetheless...

1.) Why is your diagram different from this?



The manual that came with my unit listed this for the X-trail... BUT!!... it is listed as for the QR20DE engine... there is no reference for the QR25DE. Where did you get your diagram from?

I have to assume that since there is no significant change in the QR25DE engine that I've read about, our ECMs ('03 to '05) would be fairly similar. I haven't opened my glove box to actually see if my ECM is the same as your diagram. But if I see a harness similar to yours (2 pieces instead of one), then I'd be sure what my manual is referring to is wrong.

2.) My manual also refers to hot flap wiring versus Karman? The meanings to these are lost on me. How did you know we aren't Karman?

3.) Did you leave the ECU in place while working on the wires? I'd think that'd be the safer/recommended and easier way to go.

4.) My installation manual says to "allow a space of 1 cm of more between the connecting point of the black wire and the connecting pint of the brown wire", not LESS than 1 cm. ???

Other than these questions, your post has already been a big help to me. Now I actually think I can install this myself then bring the X to be dynoed somewhere.

And oh... my X doesn't have that little compartment to place the control panel in. I'll have to look for a better place in my X.

Thanks a bunch for the effort you put in. The pics are nice and the descriptions detailed!

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :) :)
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Q & A

Hi Tim,

I'll try to answer the best I can:

1) Connection Diagram:
There are 2 separate ECM connectors: The layout more closely resembles SAFC manual, picture N10-c as below:

(You know what? I just noticed I had posted the wrong one on my page ...Sorry)


The corresponding layout can be found in the car's electronic service manual; I doubt very much that yours would be different but you will see immediately when you look at your connectors.

2) MAF sensor type:
There are various methods to measure air flow and three main Air Flow Sensor types: Hot Wire type, Flap type, and Karman type.
The sensor type used on the QR25DE is a "Hot Wire" type. It can be seen by looking at the sensor and also it is described in the service manual.

But I found this link if you are interested in reading about each type of MAF:
http://www.autoshop101.com/forms/h34.pdf

3) The ECM itself does not need to be taken out. Just unplugging the connector one at a time is enough.

4) Correct. I guess my writing was confusing; I wrote: "no less than 1 cm" meaning you must have more than 1 cm between each ground connection taps. (there is not much room up on that connector wire: I managed to get 2 cm between the wires)


Keep reading that manual, it can only make things easier if you are familiar with it :)

Good luck, & let me know when you decide to dive in.
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Hi Stephen,

Well since you ask: although I have an "F" plate, the car is on a 3 year "purchase" plan. So there is no problem here.

As for the dealer, they have not asked me any questions or made any comments (or maybe not directly to me, why? have made comments to you? ;) )

Later
Marc.

SCHESBH said:
Can you please answer one question for me... and I am laughing while I am saying this... is your X-Trail not leased...? What does the dealer say to all your umm...mods... LOL

Stephen
Just curious

Not to me.. but I can't wait until (not that I wish it) LOL they say something.... heheheh


Stephen


ValBoo said:
Hi Stephen,

Well since you ask: although I have an "F" plate, the car is on a 3 year "purchase" plan. So there is no problem here.

As for the dealer, they have not asked me any questions or made any comments (or maybe not directly to me, why? have made comments to you? ;) )

Later
Marc.
Hi ValBoo,

Thanks for the answers. Now its more clear. And yes, now that I read your post again, you DID say "no less than 1 cm". My bad.

I'm thinking I can probably do the hardwire connections even without my headers yet. It will just sit there until the headers arrive. As long as it isn't turned on, it shouldn't affect the car, right?

Reading your post is getting me excited. I'm already thinking I might dive in this weekend. Will let you know. :)

ValBoo said:
Hi Tim,

I'll try to answer the best I can:

1) Connection Diagram:
There are 2 separate ECM connectors: The layout more closely resembles SAFC manual, picture N10-c as below:


(You know what? I just noticed I had posted the wrong one on my page ...Sorry)


The corresponding layout can be found in the car's electronic service manual; I doubt very much that yours would be different but you will see immediately when you look at your connectors.

2) MAF sensor type:
There are various methods to measure air flow and three main Air Flow Sensor types: Hot Wire type, Flap type, and Karman type.
The sensor type used on the QR25DE is a "Hot Wire" type. It can be seen by looking at the sensor and also it is described in the service manual.

But I found this link if you are interested in reading about each type of MAF:
http://www.autoshop101.com/forms/h34.pdf

3) The ECM itself does not need to be taken out. Just unplugging the connector one at a time is enough.

4) Correct. I guess my writing was confusing; I wrote: "no less than 1 cm" meaning you must have more than 1 cm between each ground connection taps. (there is not much room up on that connector wire: I managed to get 2 cm between the wires)


Keep reading that manual, it can only make things easier if you are familiar with it :)

Good luck, & let me know when you decide to dive in.
More questions than answers

I've been going through the manuals like you suggested. I think installation is going to be infinitely easier than tweaking it. It measures quite a number of things and allows for so many combinations! This is great in a way... but also daunting on the other. Can you please post what settings you eventually settled with? I don't know how far down my headers are. (Hotshots is 3 weeks backordered and there doesn't seem to be any 4-1 headers now. Now actually at possibly getting Hotbits from Singapore.) But getting an idea of your settings might eventually help me with mine.

Thanks!
Hi Tim,

Just as you are, I am also amazed at the amount of stuff that little unit can do (measure)...

You can bet that after tuning I will post as much info as I can.

One set back though, My Tech cannot do my tuning tomorrow... It will have to wait til Monday :( :( :(.
Bummer!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

Will wait for your post/update.
UPDATE !!!

My installation was completed a couple of weeks ago and so was my tuning.

About that RPM signal connection to terminal 103 which has no wire:
My Tech informed me that there is another way of getting an RPM signal from one of the "coil pack" wires on terminal 80 or 81 or 61 or 62 (pick any ONE of them; lower left side ECU connector). And since your pulse/RPM signal is collected from one coil only, you simply have to select 1 cylinder in your initial SAFC settings and this will give an accurate RPM information.



My tech. performed the tuning "live" using a wide band O2 sensor and his laptop to record the air fuel ratio throughout the RPM and at pretty much full throttle. Just like the 02 & 03 SpecV QR25DE equipped, it was found that my engine was running very "rich" (11 to 11.5) and that there was lots of room for improvements.

So here are the correction settings done at Hi-Throttle:

Ne01= 1000 rpm; corr: n/a
Ne02= 2000 rpm; corr: n/a
Ne03= 2400 rpm; corr: -15%
Ne04= 2800 rpm; corr: -15%
Ne05= 3200 rpm; corr: -15%
Ne06= 3600 rpm; corr: -16%
Ne07= 4000 rpm; corr: -18%
Ne08= 4400 rpm; corr: -19%
Ne09= 4800 rpm; corr: -19%
Ne10= 5200 rpm; corr: -19%
Ne11= 5600 rpm; corr: -19%
Ne12= 6000 rpm; corr: -19%

Lo throttle= 10%
Hi throttle= 50%


I have been driving my car for just over a week with the correction settings and I must say that there is a marked improvement (feels like the same marked difference as adding an exhaust header, say 10 to 15 HP)

Unfortunately, I have not dynoed my car and must rely on my very own "but-dyno".

My thanks to:
Robin Almasi (aka: S14 Drift!)
of Almasi Tuning, Montreal, QC, Canada.
(514) 567-0617 [email protected]
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I'm glad this became a sticky. This is a stickier install than moving the knock sensor. :)

Now with those settings you typed out... are those the ONLY settings you entered in the unit. Aren't there any other settings to set in addition to selecting 1 on the number of cylinders? Did you eventually move the wires to the other locations or did you keep it at terminal 103?

What is your final measured air to fuel ratio after adjusting the unit?

I haven't gotten around to working the unit yet. Just got a lead on the headers and even a downpipe. So now I'm thinking I'll wait until all are in. I hope to eventually add my experience to this thread.
Nicely done Marc!

Your XTy is becoming one heck of a "Tuner" truck :thumbup: I would love to take it for a test drive just to see how it feels.
hello valbo. im a newbie here. i just installed my apexi afc2 on my xtrail too.

regarding the setting on the fuel map. what were the results?

my engine is qr25de.

thanks
Not sure what you mean about results...
End result is better air-fuel ratio (less fuel in my case) and increased HP.

If you mean the actual fuel map corrections... these are posted above in post #11.

Don't take my corrections as gold, because it really depends on the car, year, and country of origin. You must have you car properly tuned (by shop or someone who really knows what he is doing) using a wide band oxygen sensor to then be able to apply the best corrections for your particular engine.

:)
Marc, I just ordered my AFC today, and hope to have it in a week. I'm still awaiting shipment of other things (pulley, spacers, cams), so I'll have it dyno tuned in March. If anyone wants I can also post up a video once I get it done.
Terranismo said:
Marc, I just ordered my AFC today,....
Good stuff! (mind you I thought you had looked into SAFC before...)

To tell you the truth it is kind of intimidating once you get the covers off the ECU connectors... at least it was for me. Take your time, don't "snip" the wrong wire, he he he :)

Did you have en evaluation of your air fuel ratio as it is now?
at least that would give you an idea how much the SAFC could improve things for you (unless you are getting the SAFC for future boost upgrades ;))

Do post your Vids when available ... its always nice to see other X-trails.
I don't know the ratio right now, but I can tell you that it is running gasoline stinking rich. I'm having it installed since I'll be putting it very, very away from the ECU connector. I'll surprise you once I get it installed and post some pics.

BTW No boost for now, only nitrous :thumbup:
Hi Marc,

Now I got this mod drilled in my head, I want to find-out more information about it if I may :)

I can get this unit here in Australia and I can have it installed, dyno-tuned and all that (the fitting and dyno tuning is gonna cost me double the price of the actual apex'i :( )

I need to know what was your fuel consumption like before this mod and after? since you've been running with it for quite a while.

What I'm trying to establish, is the benefits to fuel consumption should I go down this path which will in turn help me recover some of the money am gonna spend on this mod (which looks like over $1000AUS!!!)

Power and performance increase are secondary targets for me doing this mod. My exy is running rich 11:1 at the moment and I want/need to fix this problem and if this is gonna give me more power, then that'll be a bonus :)

Look forward to your reply.
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