not entirely true, as my HID kit provides much improved lighting than any halogen. it almost compares to my brother's acura HIDs (no projectors).1.6pete said:no ballest= no HID. you cant even plug the xenon bulbs in without the ballest!
no retro fit= no projector= worthless HID.
the projector aims the light without it the light would be very scatterd and it would not be worth the money you spent. not to mention everyone will hate you with the fire of 1000 suns. liuspeed can help you out alot more than i can but those are the baisics.
yes jlee is correct it is not necessarily true.. it is recommended though for a nice cut off and such to use projectors and stuff but for those that dont care about glare and proper set up the aftermarket kits will work but wont be as focused as the projectors would. there are also standard reflectors that come on acura TL and stuff also on the stock maxima and G35 that have D2R hid reflectors that have a specail pattern in the reflector to imitate the cut off though not as sharp of a cut off or as colorful as the proejectors.jlee1469 said:not entirely true, as my HID kit provides much improved lighting than any halogen. it almost compares to my brother's acura HIDs (no projectors).
as long as you get the right bulb (anything above 8000k is not beneficial) and aim them low you're fine.
haha oh wow. i guess you neva been to boston, MA. last night alone must've seen what, 6-8 civics with 6000-8000k kits blindin' the shit outta me. they just toss a hid kit in their stock reflectors. the worse is the 2003 toyota camry here, its blue and got 6000k looks like on it. that blinds the bajesus outta me to the point i gotta close my dam eyes.1.6pete said:yea i guess its true that HID is still better, but you are completly blinding other drivers i get mad at the turds with those blue bulbs, thankfully i havnt come accross someone with HID in stock reflectors yet..................... :thumbup:
sure 12000 K is brighter than halogen.. anything HID is brighter in halogen.. it just that for daily driving your eyes can get fatigue and it also wont catch as much stuff as it would with 4300 or 4100 K systems. trust me ive done the research and seen the test results and all the fun stuff... 2 year studying this and reading and researching and also seen the test before i done my retrofit..soccrstar said:haha oh wow. i guess you neva been to boston, MA. last night alone must've seen what, 6-8 civics with 6000-8000k kits blindin' the shit outta me. they just toss a hid kit in their stock reflectors. the worse is the 2003 toyota camry here, its blue and got 6000k looks like on it. that blinds the bajesus outta me to the point i gotta close my dam eyes.
if you going to do HID at least get projectors so you'll have a cut-off so you wont blind the sh*t outta people.
my hid kit came in yesterday 12000K. it is so beautiful and omg it is so f*ckin' bright. i used to have 100w arctic purple bulbs in there. my freakin' fog lights out bright those. my fogs are h3 hyper yellow 70w, ordered arctic purple 100w to replace them to match my new HID.
i retrofitted some projectors inside. it looks really nice. all you see is a little ball of light that you can look at n wont blind you. imma get a throw-away camera so i can take pics of my car during day n night with fogs n HID on it.
ya'll may say 12k is a waste but i say its not. like 5x brighter than halogen. you gotta see it for urself.
oh n it turns heads like woah. everyone and i mean everyone in street turned their heads as i went pass. hell a freakin' civic "tried" racin' me, he got dusted, dam those civics who they think they are.
back to topic. if you going to get HID please please please get projectors!!!
it all about the lumens man.. 12000 k is less lumens ( light output ) as the 4300 K and the 6000 K less lumens ( light output) as the 6000..soccrstar said:hehe what daily drivin'? not like you drive durin' day with them... as of now i hardly drive at night if ever. and if i do i only drive what 1-2hours to get home. my eyes wont get fatigue as i got arctic purple bulbs in both my moms car and mine before the HID and it too has that purple tint to it.
maby someone who drives all night may not get 12k kit not gon argue that. 6000k kit seems 2 be brighter on road than the 4300k kits or is it just me
glas you understood my point.. and if you woulda said you bought it mainly for show then this woulda been alot shorter convo. :thumbup:soccrstar said:liuspeed, i know about the lumens. i bought the 12k kit mainly for show. if i really wanted to light up the road i would've bought a 4300-6000k kit
naw, we tested that already, my friends drive in front of me all the time (some of them have stock height cars and some lowered) and all of them said my lights were fine......they are bright but i had them adjusted to not blind everybody. when my sister first got hers i drove in front of her and they blinded the shit outta me but as soon as we took them back to the shop and they re adjusted them, they were fine. not any more blinding than a bmw or IS. so for everybody considering hid's keep in mind.....MAKE SURE THEY ARE ADJUSTED BEFORE YOU LEAVE THE SHOP!!!1.6pete said:yea i guess its true that HID is still better, but you are completly blinding other drivers i get mad at the turds with those blue bulbs, thankfully i havnt come accross someone with HID in stock reflectors yet..................... :thumbup:
it is plug and play, but with all the bad luck i had with my halos i didnt want to mess them up so i just let they shop we ordered them from install them for me.1.6pete said:hmm, i didnt think it was a matter of simply "aiming" the housing........
you had a shop instal it!? i thought it was mosly just a plug and play instal.
that just saying buying some halogen projectors made for h1 or h3 or whatever and fitting them in and buying a aftermarket hid kit and slapping it in.. same cost less effective why not do it correctly the first place..1.6pete said:may be thats the reason that your lights arnt as blining! ok, see if you had the normal stly senra/200 lights the beam pattern is much more broad and it would be blinding.....maybe we found a loup hole to the hole projector thig (id still get them though)
liu, pro HID set ups are things inter changable? like could you buy a set of ballests and bulbs then buy the projectors that would fit your application the best? i guess my question is, sometime you come accross those hella cheap bulb and ballest kits on ebay if you bought one of those kits and then just bought projectors off of a junked car some where, would that work?