man...i dunno guys...i see both sides of this...yet i live in an area where honda, nissan, mustang, and camaro owners all hang out together.heck one of my best friends owns a mustang and we get along alright. now i do hate anything with multiple gigantic apc stickers and well i hate this term but "riced" out cars. *puts on flame suit* i even like some of those aluminum wings on certain cars..though id never put one on my car or any car i owned for that matter unless i was running 11's or 10's