drifting in my b13

then give me a solid definition i cant find my way around and i will shut up, ive yet to see one

Slacky said:

then give me a solid definition i cant find my way around and i will shut up, ive yet to see one

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Drifting : a sport in which rwd cars compete to have the highest angle of drift, at the fastest speed, closest to the wall to earn style points.

Work around that. That right there is drifting.

EDIT: I almost for got [in best cocky voice] TRUMPED [end cocky voice]

u were supposed to make a deffinition where fwd cars cant drift, a fwd car can go sideways near a wall all it wants. seperate the possabilities of a fwd car being able to "drift" instead of just saying that only rwd cars can do so

Slacky said:

u were supposed to make a deffinition where fwd cars cant drift, a fwd car can go sideways near a wall all it wants. seperate the possabilities of a fwd car being able to "drift" instead of just saying that only rwd cars can do so

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Umm i'm not sure if you really know what drifting is...... go watch a few drifting video's. But i'm positive you aren't the first guy that thinks he's "drifting" in his fwd car. Thats more of a slide to be politically correct. I've done it many times in my sentra and it is very fun, but not drifting.

Slacky said:

u were supposed to make a deffinition where fwd cars cant drift, a fwd car can go sideways near a wall all it wants. seperate the possabilities of a fwd car being able to "drift" instead of just saying that only rwd cars can do so

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no, you're not getting it....the definition of drifting inclues "RWD" read that. RWD....IE: you cannot drift a fwd car, because it's NOT RWD....

SlowB14 said:

no, thats a slide....not a drift....

You're taking drifting as something other than what it is, a show. Drifting requires rwd....you can't argue it. Watch any D1 competition, or talk to a D1 driver, drifting is rwd only.

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Why don't you read some books on handling and suspension, including engineering textbooks on vehicle dynamics that were around before this fad called drifting then.

You can even read some simple books by Fred Puhn and Don Alexander on the subject that were written in the early 80's before they were even doing the sport of drifting in Japan, before Option Magazine vidios, before Doriken started to drift his AE86 on the street as a young man.

Drifting is a fad extreme sport here that is relativly new, the vehicle dynamic term of drifting has been around for generations.

morepower2 said:

Why don't you read some books on handling and suspension, including engineering textbooks on vehicle dynamics that were around before this fad called drifting then.

You can even read some simple books by Fred Puhn and Don Alexander on the subject that were written in the early 80's before they were even doing the sport of drifting in Japan, before Option Magazine vidios, before Doriken started to drift his AE86 on the street as a young man.

Drifting is a fad extreme sport here that is relativly new, the vehicle dynamic term of drifting has been around for generations.

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mike, you are very correct, however the guy didnt mean just the suspension tuning to get oversteer, he was talking about drifting the car like you see in the D1GP, which is impossible in a FWD car, however you can pull a technical drift by the oversteer created with stiff suspension and trail braking.

KaRdoN said:

mike, you are very correct, however the guy didnt mean just the suspension tuning to get oversteer, he was talking about drifting the car like you see in the D1GP, which is impossible in a FWD car, however you can pull a technical drift by the oversteer created with stiff suspension and trail braking.

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I agree with this and I even stated this in my post, but some are still choosing to argue.

morepower2 said:

Why don't you read some books on handling and suspension, including engineering textbooks on vehicle dynamics that were around before this fad called drifting then.

You can even read some simple books by Fred Puhn and Don Alexander on the subject that were written in the early 80's before they were even doing the sport of drifting in Japan, before Option Magazine vidios, before Doriken started to drift his AE86 on the street as a young man.

Drifting is a fad extreme sport here that is relativly new, the vehicle dynamic term of drifting has been around for generations.

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Good job reputing nothing....

You make it sound as if I'm saying
"I'm f*cking retarded, and think that only rwd cars have the capability of driving down the road."

I never said you can't get a car sideways that wasn't rwd...I simply stated that drifting, the sport, is a rwd thing. I moddified my suspension, I drive it hard, and my car has gone through a turn horizontally before.

Trying to make yourself sound smart by posting up jibberish about reading up on the dynamics of suspenion is worthless. If you agree fwd can't drift, why keep posting

damn. i thought this was suppose to over with. lets j ust post the pics and vids

SlowB14 said:

Good job reputing nothing....

You make it sound as if I'm saying
"I'm f*cking retarded, and think that only rwd cars have the capability of driving down the road."

I never said you can't get a car sideways that wasn't rwd...I simply stated that drifting, the sport, is a rwd thing. I moddified my suspension, I drive it hard, and my car has gone through a turn horizontally before.

Trying to make yourself sound smart by posting up jibberish about reading up on the dynamics of suspenion is worthless. If you agree fwd can't drift, why keep posting

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Why keep posting?

I'd be willing to bet that Mike Kojima knows more than you do about motorsports. And anyone who knows who he is and a little about him would agree with that. SlowB14, you're making a total ass of yourself.

toolapcfan said:

I'd be willing to bet that Mike Kojima knows more than you do about motorsports. And anyone who knows who he is and a little about him would agree with that. SlowB14, you're making a total ass of yourself.

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sure is fun to read though :thumbup: this is turning into the thread in the motor sports "FWD sliding" section. maybe this should be closed because we took it wayyyyyyy off topic (not pointing the finger at anyone, we all did it)
this is the thread dedicated to this mindless banter, just go there and we can argue all day long (as long as its a good argument, im not gona respond is some is called a poopy head lol) and leave this to die :cheers:

also, don't be hassling mike, if you have read www.sentra.net (and if you own a sentra you should have read this) then you know who he is. don't be taking things so personally, we are having a discusion not a flame war.

i love this thread lol

FYI
I had a 96 dodge avenger v6 w/ eibach pro kit springs KYB AGX 8 way adjustable rear 4 way adjustable front struts and with struts on near stiffest settings i could EASILY do this "FWD slide" however you guys want to say it but you guys are describing it as needing to use the e-brake or jerk the steering wheel, and your making it sound like you lose speed doing it.

WRONG WRONG WRONG

When doing my "FWD slide" I could go FASTER than I could without it, the trick was keeping it on the VERGE of losing control or whatever.

B13Sentra2DR said:

FYI
I had a 96 dodge avenger v6 w/ eibach pro kit springs KYB AGX 8 way adjustable rear 4 way adjustable front struts and with struts on near stiffest settings i could EASILY do this "FWD slide" however you guys want to say it but you guys are describing it as needing to use the e-brake or jerk the steering wheel, and your making it sound like you lose speed doing it.

WRONG WRONG WRONG

When doing my "FWD slide" I could go FASTER than I could without it, the trick was keeping it on the VERGE of losing control or whatever.

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it's a well known fact that drifting, 99 times out of 100, is not the fastest way around the track.