[luminus]

What do you mean by "spooky handling"?

I've been running on stock springs, agxs, st rear sway bar, and stock front bar with poly bushings, and I haven't run into anything 'spooky' yet.

You do have to be more careful with it, you might scare yourself pretty good if you dive into a corner too fast and lift then brake. But if you're doing that, you need to be stirred up a little.

Aaron

 

[luminus]

That's spooky handling for most American drivers. And what I meant.

I figured, but had to ask. Also, that is very true. Once I heard something to the effect of: if a driver pushes a car too hard and it plows into a wall with the front end, its the drivers mistake. if its pushed too hard and the rear comes around, its the manufacturers fault.

I like to know that at autocrosses I can setup the car for off throttle oversteer.

ak

 

[luminus]

> In both cases it would be the driver's fault because he didn't drive within the limits of the car.

You're right. Does this sound better:

Since most street production cars are designed to understeer, if the driver pushes it too hard and it starts plowing, TYPICALLY, an unexperienced driver is going to decide that the car needs to go slower (duh , stepping on the brakes. Transfering weight to the front tires of the vehicle while slowing it down, steering ability returns and they can correct.

If it oversteered and they stepped on the brakes, well, it just got worse.

Aaron