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I'm saying you should only put the Hypercoils or Coilovers on it.

Anything else is too low and too soft.

Nissan gives you so little suspension travel in the B13 that if you lower it at all, you need ridiculous spring rate to make up for it.

Of course, you have to make your own decision. I'm just providing a (strong) recommendation.

Did you look through the Sentra link of mine? Very informative.
 

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only the bottom link worked and i don't believe it said anything about springs.

Also i don't drive competitively so is it absolutely necessary to get these hypercos, because they seem kind of stiff 300 200 for a daily driver, isnt stock 112 90, also a little expensive, im pretty sure they were 269$

you say that they are to soft, and i believe you its just are they to soft for track racing and autocross, or are they to soft even for a daily driver

I just want to get rid of nose dives when braking and body roll when switching lanes

IF hypercos are your first choice, what would be your second choice be if you have one

Thanks for the replies man, this forum has really gone done since i first used it a couple of years ago.
 

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I just saw the link i think you wanted me to see, you posted it a little down the page on the forum for someone else, diffidently some good info

so either pro kits or hyperco gen2 is what is down to i guess
 

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This is the link on springs:

B13 Nissan Sentra Springs and Struts - Mr. Wellwood

^^^ scroll to the very bottom on "ADDENDUM."

I fixed the links in my sig, thanks for pointing it out :)

The 300/200 are NOT as stiff as you would think. It actually rides better on the street, because it bottoms out WAY less. Bottoming out is much less comfortable.

I chose Hypercoils as only an OEM style spring was legal for my racing class at the time. I would have chosen coilovers if I were to do it again. Mind you, coilovers can be a pain in the bum too (noisy, subject to the elements).

The off-the-shelf style springs (Eibach, ST, Tokico, etc...) are all too soft, even for the street. You have to contend with pot holes, railway tracks, irregular roads, driveways and curbs on the street - these springs will show their shortcomings real quick.

When I drove the Tokico springs on the street, I was always always always watching for bumps, cracks, nickels, and whatever was on the road in front of me so I wouldn't hit it.

When I drove the Hypercoils, I only had to keep an eye out for death bumps - I could pay more attention to just driving.

300/200 is firm, but very surprisingly livable.
 

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When I drove the Tokico springs on the street, I was always always always watching for bumps, cracks, nickels, and whatever was on the road in front of me so I wouldn't hit it.:lame:




I remember my brothers integra with a shunk 2 coil overs and well POS every crack and little bumps like manholes would be so loud and basically knocked that car apart :mad:

i do not want my sentra to even come close to this so i guess the Hypercoils are my only choice. well thanks for everything, i glad someone replied.
 

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Um...........one question where can i find the gen2 coils because from what i've seen they are imposable to find or im just being stupid?:confused:


Off the link you gave me, possible custom order?

"In all my horrendously skeptical honesty, I never thought I would be this impressed with these springs. Phenominal. These are indeed the cat's meow. If you didn't get them you have indeed missed out."
 

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why did you quote my lame smile, the only reason i quoted you was to compare the tokico springs with how my brothers car drove, and how i didn't want that for my sentra, i think you didn't understand what i was saying, because i diffidently wasn't mocking you.

piss off........what did I do?

what you could have said was i have no idea where to get them, but no you had to be an assh0le and post some pointless sh+t telling me to fuc% off!

you should have not even posted!
 

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Easy fellas, there's a small misunderstanding here. 1: Skinny G is correct. I passed on the Tokicos after visiting his site so I saved a lot of time any money not buying that garbage. 2: I assume the lame smiley was meant for the Tokico springs and not for Skinny G. Cool it, both of you.

As far as your springs choices go, you have only one and it is the Hypercos. I've had the Hyperco AGX combo and they are great for a daily driver. The Hypercos only lower 1 inch and that is as far as I would go with a stock length strut. If you choose any other spring you are going too low and you run the risk of blowing those expensive AGXs. The problem with the Hyperco is their availability. They are hard to find and they hold their value. I no longer run the Hyperco/AGX and I'm back to stock, but I was very pleased with them. The reason I sold them was because I wanted shortened struts so I am building a set of shortened Konis that I will use with Ground Control 325/250. I went stiffer than 300/200 because I will be going slightly lower than 1 inch and I already know that 300/200 wasn't as harsh as I thought. If I were you I would get the Ground Control coilovers. There are ways to mitigate the noise associated with coilovers: http://www.sr20forum.com/technical-...ower-spring-perch-ground-control-sleeves.html You can use them with your AGXs or you can upgrade to shortened struts later and have a fully adjustable coilover setup.

In fact I would forget the AGXs altogether and go with shortened Konis, at least in the front. The rear suspension travel is not as much of an issue as the front. Putting a set of Konis in a stock strut housing is not as hard as it seems: http://www.sr20forum.com/technical-information-library/26211-how-shorten-your-own-koni-struts.html . You can still use the AGX in the rear. I might consider selling the front AGXs and buying a pair of Koni inserts (red or yellow) and just using your current stockers as housings. In the end it's your choice but just don't delude yourself into thinking that any of the too low/too soft springs are good suspension choices. They aren't. You are better off staying stock.

Here is one more link with all the suspension info you could possibly want: http://www.sr20forum.com/driveline-transmission/170794-b13-b14-b15-suspension-information.html
 

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Then I apologize for misunderstanding you and criticizing you for it.

When I'm trying to give some help to save someone wasted money and disappointment, and I see an eye-rolling "lame" icon in response to my assistance, I can't help but think that it is my my thoughts and suggestions that are "lame." Perhaps a different icon, or some additional text to put the icon in context would reduce the misunderstanding.

Back on track:

The Hypercoils often come up for sale at www.sr20forum.com. Buying Coilovers would expediate the spring thing.

Koni (Spec-V inserts are often used, in a modified strut housing) are ideal, but since you already have the AGX's......
 

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Apology accepted. And thanks knock_it_off_hudson for the good links, i appreciate it. This clears everything up thank you.
 
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