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how to improve braking system for b11....
want more grip better than standard...

actually i want minor modification...
 

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no pics, but straight from carbotech. . .

(3) Do you recommend stainless steel brake lines? What are the advantages and disadvantages?

The primary purpose of stainless steel braided brake lines is to improve the brake pedal feel, i.e. to make the brake pedal firmer. Stainless steel brake lines are typically constructed of a PTFE (teflon) core - through which the brake fluid travels, which is covered with a nylon or kevlar braided sheath, over which stainless steel fibers are braided on the exterior. Some stainless steel brake lines also have a silicone cover applied over the stainless steel braiding, to prevent dust and debris from working into the space between the PTFE core and the stainless steel braiding, which can wear down the PTFE core, and thus result in brake line failure.

For a street driven vehicle, we recommend NOT installing stainless steel brake lines, as they require more "maintenance" than OEM rubber brake lines. By maintenance, we mean regular inspection for leaks or wear. The stainless steel braiding provides protection against road debris which could otherwise cut or rupture an OEM rubber brake line, but unless you are willing to inspect your brake lines every 3 months or so, installing stainless steel brake lines would present more of a liability than any realistic performance benefit.

For a track driven vehicle which has its brake system inspected regularly, and where the driver wants the most consistent and firm brake pedal feel possible, then stainless steel brake lines can be installed with excellent results.
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I have the Goodrich SS lines and they are excellent. They are one exception that can be driven on the street as they are in fact DOT approved for street usage. It is still important to inspect them every so often.
 

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NickZac said:
I have the Goodrich SS lines and they are excellent. They are one exception that can be driven on the street as they are in fact DOT approved for street usage. It is still important to inspect them every so often.
That's not an exception, that's awesome that they're DOT aproved.
 

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hampeh said:
how about changing brake pump to other model...
Like what model are you thinking of? Basically, to increase brake performance, you want to improve brake pressure or friction surface area. The latter is really expensive (aftermarket rotors + calipers = $$$)

As far as I know, you can swap out the Master Cylinder/ proportion valve, put on SS brake lines, and put on AD22VF front brakes for a decently improved brake performance. (At least for a B12 . . oops)
 

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here's the way it works: if you can lock up all four tires, you have enough brake. you just have to improve the feel.

Q) can you lock up all four tires?

1) if not,
Cheapest "MOD" for brakes that i know of is installing quality pads. stop buying pads at walmart. get some good semi-metallic or ceramic-metallic pads. make sure you get a good name like Bendix, RayBestos, Hayes, etc. i had good semi-metallic pads in my B11, and they would rarely overheat, and would get reasonably good cold performance.

2) if so,
improve the feel with new lines (stainless or otherwise). keep in mind often SS braided lines aren't all that necessary. sometime replacing old, soft, worn-out original brake lines with OEM replacements will make a big difference. either way, however, they are only really going to improve "feel" not actual braking force. you may also want to make sure that all the hard lines are anchored properly. if not, they can flex under hard braking, and you lose feel. if your braking system hasn't been messed with, you should be alright.

there are many answers to your question, and they depend on your driving habits, what you use your car for, and what you consider "cheap."
 

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i wanna to adjust my rear brake make more grip....
so that, when i press brake pedal, all my front and rear typre will stop....
so i'll get more grip...

it is posible....?
if posible guide me....
 

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hampeh said:
i wanna to adjust my rear brake make more grip....
so that, when i press brake pedal, all my front and rear typre will stop....
so i'll get more grip...

it is posible....?
if posible guide me....
I dont see exactly why you want to do that unless your cars are very heavy in the rear, but using a meaner pad in the rears will let them bite more.
 

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EBC green stuff brake pads good for heavy braking, alot less fade, dont heat up very fast can take 2000 degrees. get theese for your front discs. i found green nissmo pads on ebay for the rear drums.

green brakes are a composite mixed with kevlar.
less dust as well. great upgrade if your keeping your rear drums.
 

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omnimedia said:
EBC green stuff brake pads good for heavy braking, alot less fade, dont heat up very fast can take 2000 degrees. get theese for your front discs. i found green nissmo pads on ebay for the rear drums.

green brakes are a composite mixed with kevlar.
less dust as well. great upgrade if your keeping your rear drums.
EBC Greenstuff is the most horrible compound out their. They fade way too easily, they have been known to crack (edit: well actually crumble), their life is incredibly short, and they leave the oddest crap on your rotors leaving you with no other option to turn or refinish. Organic compounds in general suck and IMO are not all that safe. EBC is by no means a good name in brakes. And they begin to fade closer to 600. Stick with Ceramic or sem-metallic, preferably with decent carbon compounds if you want strong fade resistance. Hawk is better, Axis is good, Carbotech IMO is the best. I drive the Bobcats and if you look at the NPM test of them on the Nissan Titan, those tests will concur about the quality and ability of the Bobcats.
 

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hampeh said:
i wanna to adjust my rear brake make more grip....
so that, when i press brake pedal, all my front and rear typre will stop....
so i'll get more grip...

it is posible....?
if posible guide me....
And it just hit me that you probably have drum brakes so I honestly dont know how to change bias without getting rear discs.
 
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