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captain_shrapnel said:
Right. They know that most people aren't knowledgable enough to purchase an amp based on actual performance. Most people just buy the shiniest object they can find. Marketing in action....
I doubt they have stayed in buisness for 15 years because ppl dont know about amps. :thumbup:
 

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$500 for a single sub w/ box an amp. Can be done easily. I got my infinity perfect 12.1 w/box and 300W amp for about $125 IIRC. It was used and I was getting a deal b/c he's my friend, but it's not that hard to do either way. A decient amp (300-400W) costs around $250-300, pick up a decient sub off ebay for around $150, hell, you may find one already in a box.
 

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Ninety-Nine SE-L said:
$500 for a single sub w/ box an amp. Can be done easily. I got my infinity perfect 12.1 w/box and 300W amp for about $125 IIRC. It was used and I was getting a deal b/c he's my friend, but it's not that hard to do either way. A decient amp (300-400W) costs around $250-300, pick up a decient sub off ebay for around $150, hell, you may find one already in a box.
I was thinking about two 12" RF's that are 200 RMS each, and they are 99.99 new an onlinecarstereo with a Audiobahn 400 watt RMS mono amp. Wich is only 200 new, then about 75 on wires. If anyone thinks I would be dissapointed with this please speak up, I am open for suggestions.
 

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ga16freak said:
I doubt they have stayed in buisness for 15 years because ppl dont know about amps. :thumbup:
why?
people like shiny shit and don't care how it performs, just look at these 28" rims out there. Audiobahn has been in business so long because it's pretty and it's expensive, so people naturally assume it must be good without actually doing any research. Hell, just look at Bose and Sony if you want more example of horrible companies that are still doing very well due to customer ignorance.
 

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ga16freak said:
I was thinking about two 12" RF's that are 200 RMS each, and they are 99.99 new an onlinecarstereo with a Audiobahn 400 watt RMS mono amp. Wich is only 200 new, then about 75 on wires. If anyone thinks I would be dissapointed with this please speak up, I am open for suggestions.
*raises hand*

listen to Azgrower
 

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It's about time.

Ok i have finally made my decision.Well except the enclosure,but i have an idea for that.So here we go.

2 Alpine E12's 200 RMS each.$99 buy one get one free.
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-5EhjSpSwu6n/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=67700&id=essential_info&i=500SWE1241
Audiobahn A8002T.2 channels at 200 RMS.
http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=13487
Then I was hoping for some opinions on this enclosure.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=50567&item=5742672531&rd=1
 

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bandpass is a very bad idea, and once again, audiobahn blows
Are you speaking from experiance or are you telling me what you have heard about theur amps? Why is bandpass a bad idea? And if it is such a bad idea where can I get a good ported box?
 

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ga16freak said:
Ok i have finally made my decision.Well except the enclosure,but i have an idea for that.So here we go.

2 Alpine E12's 200 RMS each.$99 buy one get one free.
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-5EhjSpSwu6n/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=67700&id=essential_info&i=500SWE1241
Audiobahn A8002T.2 channels at 200 RMS.
http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=13487
Then I was hoping for some opinions on this enclosure.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=50567&item=5742672531&rd=1
In earlier statements on this thread you asked for suggestions and advice...seems like you didnt even take into consideration what most people stated. Next time you need advice dont ask on here, cause you waste not only your time but ours as well. You should keep asking you local swap meet seller cause thats who you seem to keep listening to. Audiobahn equipment is way too overpriced, so we offered some better equipment advice, which is also cheaper. But if you want to spend way too much on your system, go for it, but dont waste the forum's fawking bandwith next time you need advice.
 

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If you want an inexpensive set up, the Kicker Comp VRs are not bad subs. Buying them through an authorized dealer is very good as I can personally vouch that Kicker is stands firm behind their products. Their are smaller name companies that are good too. If you want very high quality bass, listen to the experts here who know the smaller name companies with high qualiy products.
 

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Azgrower said:
In earlier statements on this thread you asked for suggestions and advice...seems like you didnt even take into consideration what most people stated. Next time you need advice dont ask on here, cause you waste not only your time but ours as well. You should keep asking you local swap meet seller cause thats who you seem to keep listening to. Audiobahn equipment is way too overpriced, so we offered some better equipment advice, which is also cheaper. But if you want to spend way too much on your system, go for it, but dont waste the forum's fawking bandwith next time you need advice.
How can you say that I didnt take anything into consideration? I picked out the Alpline's becasue 2 ppl said that they are good and that they really like theirs. As for the amps I have tried over and over to get someone to give me some suggestions, as in speciffic models and where I could get them but it just doesnt happen. If you didnt know, I am knew to this whole thing and ppl are just giveing me model #'s of stuff i have no idea what it is, and expect me to go out and find this. Every time I give a link to something I like i just get negative comments on how my choices arent verry good, but still no suggestion of what I could get for the same price range. I am looking into the RE subs too but i am having trouble finding stuff, so in the mean time I thoght that I would put some subs on there that I thought were a good idea, but if you think that I am just wasting your time then why did you even bother to make such a negative comment.
 

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ga16freak said:
How can you say that I didnt take anything into consideration? I picked out the Alpline's becasue 2 ppl said that they are good and that they really like theirs. As for the amps I have tried over and over to get someone to give me some suggestions, as in speciffic models and where I could get them but it just doesnt happen. If you didnt know, I am knew to this whole thing and ppl are just giveing me model #'s of stuff i have no idea what it is, and expect me to go out and find this. Every time I give a link to something I like i just get negative comments on how my choices arent verry good, but still no suggestion of what I could get for the same price range. I am looking into the RE subs too but i am having trouble finding stuff, so in the mean time I thoght that I would put some subs on there that I thought were a good idea, but if you think that I am just wasting your time then why did you even bother to make such a negative comment.
Do you want a good inexpensive set up? Custom Pre fab boxes generally suck. Bandpass sounds horrible in terms of quality. Those RF subs arent the best and audiobahn is all show but no go. Here is a nice budget system based on loudness and not quality. Getting a box is another story.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=39777&item=5741575263&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=18797&item=5742287863&rd=1
 

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Do you want a good inexpensive set up? Custom Pre fab boxes generally suck. Bandpass sounds horrible in terms of quality. Those RF subs arent the best and audiobahn is all show but no go. Here is a nice budget system based on loudness and not quality. Getting a box is another story.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=39777&item=5741575263&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=18797&item=5742287863&rd=1
Thanks for the links. That amp seems like a good deal. On the subs i was thinking about going RE I have been doing a lot of research and everyone seems to be happy with them. They are more expensive than the Alpine's but the seem like they are very high quality.
 

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I dont woant to start an argument or anything so sorry for anything that I have done or said to offend anyone. I really appreciate all the help form everyone. After all the research on the RE's they seem like a good idea so my new question is, can I get 2 12" RE's for $200 or less.
 

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NickZac said:
Do you want a good inexpensive set up? Custom Pre fab boxes generally suck. Bandpass sounds horrible in terms of quality. Those RF subs arent the best and audiobahn is all show but no go. Here is a nice budget system based on loudness and not quality. Getting a box is another story.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=39777&item=5741575263&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=18797&item=5742287863&rd=1

CVRs actually have pretty decent sound quality, at least as far as kickers go

and you might be able to get a pair of 12" RE RE's (RE being both the brand and the model) for under $200, if not you can definitely get an RE 15, or maybe even an SE 15.
 

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...but if you think that I am just wasting your time then why did you even bother to make such a negative comment.
Sorry man, I had a "huge stick up my ass" earlier today. You can order the REs direct from them, so if you havent already emailed them, start there. They are located in Las Vegas Nevada. Hifonics amps are nice amps...they offer a nice blend of quality and economics. Another brand you may look into is Elemental Designs, they have package deals that offer pretty decent cost savings. Although many people have had problems with their customer service. Since you are new to the game, dont try and get a bandpass or ported box because they tend to be more for the experienced, meaning if its not the correct measurments, it will sound wrond, and you being new, would not understand why and think they sound okay. Make sure and get a sealed enclosure, they tend to be the most forgiving and will still kick some serious ass when hitting the lower notes. Here are some links for you.

Hifonics amps (and this online site is trustworthy and cheaper prices than Ebay, with full warranties): http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/Manufacturer.aspx?ManufacturerID=613

Elemental Designs (2 12" K series subs with Nine.2 amp): http://www.edesignaudio.com/13kv2_special.htm

Resonant Engineering: http://www.reaudio.com/

Sealed box: http://www.proboxrocks.com/
 

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JL Audio has some pretty good entry level setups, for a while we were doing a 12w0, e1200, and enclosure for $199, and a two sub set up for $299. And this setup sounded sweet for the money. You'd be suprised how well a sub and amp sound when properly matched up. Don't go getting a 2000watt sub and a 500watt amp or vice versa. Either there won't be enough power to move the sub or it will be too much and kill it. For $500 you should be able to get into a quality 300-400 watt setup if you shop around. Too bad your not in Michigan, we blew out 2 alpine type r 12's and 501 for $499 last month!
 

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Sorry man, I had a "huge stick up my ass" earlier today. You can order the REs direct from them, so if you havent already emailed them, start there. They are located in Las Vegas Nevada. Hifonics amps are nice amps...they offer a nice blend of quality and economics. Another brand you may look into is Elemental Designs, they have package deals that offer pretty decent cost savings. Although many people have had problems with their customer service. Since you are new to the game, dont try and get a bandpass or ported box because they tend to be more for the experienced, meaning if its not the correct measurments, it will sound wrond, and you being new, would not understand why and think they sound okay. Make sure and get a sealed enclosure, they tend to be the most forgiving and will still kick some serious ass when hitting the lower notes. Here are some links for you.

Hifonics amps (and this online site is trustworthy and cheaper prices than Ebay, with full warranties): http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/Manufacturer.aspx?ManufacturerID=613

Elemental Designs (2 12" K series subs with Nine.2 amp): http://www.edesignaudio.com/13kv2_special.htm

Resonant Engineering: http://www.reaudio.com/

Sealed box: http://www.proboxrocks.com/
Thannks for the links..very helpful, I really like those boxes. When I email RE it always sends it back and says there i ssomething wrong with the adress, and i have tried to call the 2 or 3 times today and they havent answered. Are they closed on saturdays? Anyways, could you recomend some RE"s for 200 to 250. That would help me out a lot. Again thanks for the help.
 

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I prefer this site for prebuilt boxes. More expensive, but loaded with intricate cross braces and this place gives you all the specs you need.
http://www.subzeromfg.com/

I agree with previous posts, do not get a bandpass box at all (need a computer to design them right for a specific sub and sq usually suffers) and unless you get the enclosure size and port tuning right, pass on the ported. Sealed boxes are very forgiving of mistakes, others are not. Basically, when it comes to quality, or even bang for the buck, most chain stores are not gonna be able to help you. Everyone here seems to like Hifonics amps as a solid mid grade solution and right now, onlinecarstereo.com sells them CHEAP! I have always been happy with JL subs, but people here have told me Adire, Resonant Engineering, Image Dynamics and Elemental Designs are better products for the money. Trust the people here, they are a knowledgeable bunch of audio geeks who usual talk about fact instead of opinion.
 

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JL Audio has some pretty good entry level setups, for a while we were doing a 12w0, e1200, and enclosure for $199, and a two sub set up for $299. And this setup sounded sweet for the money. You'd be suprised how well a sub and amp sound when properly matched up. Don't go getting a 2000watt sub and a 500watt amp or vice versa. Either there won't be enough power to move the sub or it will be too much and kill it. For $500 you should be able to get into a quality 300-400 watt setup if you shop around. Too bad your not in Michigan, we blew out 2 alpine type r 12's and 501 for $499 last month!
May I ask who "we" are?
 
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