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I have less than 2000 miles on this rogue. I went with the SV trim over the S trim for two reasons: pro pilot assist and auto climate control. I am a die hard user of the auto climate control feature, and have used it religiously in ever vehicle I've owned. However, I've noticed that this feature sucks in my rogue and works very inconsistently. It got to the point where I said "screw it" and used manual control... Like a peasant. Then I noticed with the air conditioning turned on, in manual mode, that it was blowing warm air all the way until I turned the dial to Lo, 60 degrees.. Then it begins to blow cold. I take it to nissan and of course they say nothing is wrong with it. Anyone else having these issues?
 

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I have less than 2000 miles on this rogue. I went with the SV trim over the S trim for two reasons: pro pilot assist and auto climate control. I am a die hard user of the auto climate control feature, and have used it religiously in ever vehicle I've owned. However, I've noticed that this feature sucks in my rogue and works very inconsistently. It got to the point where I said "screw it" and used manual control... Like a peasant. Then I noticed with the air conditioning turned on, in manual mode, that it was blowing warm air all the way until I turned the dial to Lo, 60 degrees.. Then it begins to blow cold. I take it to nissan and of course they say nothing is wrong with it. Anyone else having these issues?
Exact same thing happened to me today. I hit 200 miles today (drove it off the lot Saturday, so I've had it for 6 days) and anything higher than set to 64 and it's blowing hot air at me. Not warm. HOT.
 

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Exact same thing happened to me today. I hit 200 miles today (drove it off the lot Saturday, so I've had it for 6 days) and anything higher than set to 64 and it's blowing hot air at me. Not warm. HOT.
How does the auto function work for you?
 

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We techs also wish Nissan would change these systems. It isn't just Rogues, it's most Nissan Auto HVAC's. For reasons known only to some programmer in Calsonic's basement, when in Manual, the fan speed and mode buttons all work normally but the outlet temperature doesn't respond to the dial in any predictable manner. There's no "ratiometric" response and certainly no relation to the displayed temperature. Some will move very little from whatever temp they were set for when Auto was turned off. The only good workaround is to put the system in Auto and fiddle the dial until the outlet temp is more or less where you want it, then turn Auto back off and do what you want with the mode and fan speed. The reason the temperature jumps suddenly at 60~61 or 89~90 is because those are "overrides", basically telling the system to make it as cold or warm as possible without regulation. Personally I'm happy with the way Auto works in our '13 Altima, but my wife despises it for exactly the reasons above. If you want heat on your hands on a chilly morning or cold air on hot feet after work, you have to mess around to get it. We've had numerous discussions with TechLine about this on numerous models, but the only answer we ever get is, "That's how it works." It's apparent that no one in the design department or further up the chain is listening. That's a pity, because it would only take a small firmware change to have the temperature door follow the dial ratiometrically when in Manual. I can only suggest that as consumers, you complain loudly about it to Nissan Consumer Affairs. Enough complaints at a sufficient volume level is the only thing likely to move the mountain.
 

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How does the auto function work for you?
I don't use the auto because it always thinks I want the air on the absolute lowest setting whilst still actually blowing. So I don't use it, because I want a little more air power than that. I spoke to my sales guy yesterday who went to speak to his service department and basically all they said was "it's a known issue." Sounds like they have no clue how to fix it right now. So I'm about to be in Texas in 90+ degree weather for the next 5 months with a car that blows hot air.
 

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Sounds like they have no clue how to fix it right now. So I'm about to be in Texas in 90+ degree weather for the next 5 months with a car that blows hot air.
There is no fix, the problem is in flawed programming architecture and not something we technicians can tweak or adjust. However, the work-around I mentioned above will get you the desired temperature and flow. Put the system in Auto and fiddle the dial until the outlet temp (not the displayed temperature) is where you want it, then turn Auto back off and set the mode and fan speed where you want those.
 

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We techs also wish Nissan would change these systems. It isn't just Rogues, it's most Nissan Auto HVAC's. For reasons known only to some programmer in Calsonic's basement, when in Manual, the fan speed and mode buttons all work normally but the outlet temperature doesn't respond to the dial in any predictable manner. There's no "ratiometric" response and certainly no relation to the displayed temperature. Some will move very little from whatever temp they were set for when Auto was turned off. The only good workaround is to put the system in Auto and fiddle the dial until the outlet temp is more or less where you want it, then turn Auto back off and do what you want with the mode and fan speed. The reason the temperature jumps suddenly at 60~61 or 89~90 is because those are "overrides", basically telling the system to make it as cold or warm as possible without regulation. Personally I'm happy with the way Auto works in our '13 Altima, but my wife despises it for exactly the reasons above. If you want heat on your hands on a chilly morning or cold air on hot feet after work, you have to mess around to get it. We've had numerous discussions with TechLine about this on numerous models, but the only answer we ever get is, "That's how it works." It's apparent that no one in the design department or further up the chain is listening. That's a pity, because it would only take a small firmware change to have the temperature door follow the dial ratiometrically when in Manual. I can only suggest that as consumers, you complain loudly about it to Nissan Consumer Affairs. Enough complaints at a sufficient volume level is the only thing likely to move the mountain.
They are telling you "that's just how it works." ? That doesn't sound right. I drove a '15 Rogue, drove an '18 Rogue, never had any issues. Now I have a brand new '21 Rogue and it's shooting hot air at me if I set it to anything higher than 64 degrees. And only on the driver's side, I've discovered. Hot air coming out the driver's side vent, and cool air coming out of the passenger side vent. That is definitely not "just how it works."
 

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Did anyone run a check on your in-car, ambient and intake temperature sensors? If it blows hot (as opposed to tepid) at 65 then it sounds like one of those sensors may be dead or misreading, making the car think it's in Alaska and not Texas. You may have an actual electrical issue and not just the known firmware deficiency.
 

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There is no fix, the problem is in flawed programming architecture and not something we technicians can tweak or adjust. However, the work-around I mentioned above will get you the desired temperature and flow. Put the system in Auto and fiddle the dial until the outlet temp (not the displayed temperature) is where you want it, then turn Auto back off and set the mode and fan speed where you want those.
I definitely appreciate your answers. It's super frustrating as a consumer, and I'm sure even more so for a technician like yourself. The best workaround I've found is to turn the sync off, turn driver temp way down, and leave the passenger temp at a more normal temp. I guess it shouldn't matter what the temperature display on the screen says as long as I'm getting cool air. Although it's a brand new car and ya just want everything to work correctly!
 

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Did anyone run a check on your in-car, ambient and intake temperature sensors? If it blows hot (as opposed to tepid) at 65 then it sounds like one of those sensors may be dead or misreading, making the car think it's in Alaska and not Texas. You may have an actual electrical issue and not just the known firmware deficiency.
This is my concern, especially since it's only on the driver's side.
 

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This is my concern, especially since it's only on the driver's side.
If it's only the driver's side then that's different again, there may be a physical or electrical problem with your driver's mix door or servo motor. A sensor problem would affect the HVAC system globally. Sounds like there's definitely a repairable issue with your driver's side temp.
 

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If it's only the driver's side then that's different again, there may be a physical or electrical problem with your driver's mix door or servo motor. A sensor problem would affect the HVAC system globally. Sounds like there's definitely a repairable issue with your driver's side temp.
You've made me feel better as though at least part of it is fixable. :)
 

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We try our best, you're most welcome. When you visit the Service Dept, make sure you demonstrate the difference between the driver and passenger sides to the advisor, that will assure they know it isn't just the "weird firmware" problem.
 

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A little update... I took my 2021 rogue to the dealer the other day for the climate control issue, and also because there was a recall already. The recall is for some software thing.. I'm not really sure what exactly. They told me that the climate control is functioning properly, and so I was frustrated and skeptical. Since getting it back the climate control issues seemed to have been corrected.. Or at least I hope so. Auto function is working better and it was blowing cool air during all the temp ranges while in manual mode. So.. Maybe the software update fixed it.. Idk. I don't drive that much, but I will continue to monitor it. I would suggest you getting your rogue in for the recall and see if that helps
 

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A little update... I took my 2021 rogue to the dealer the other day for the climate control issue, and also because there was a recall already. The recall is for some software thing.. I'm not really sure what exactly. They told me that the climate control is functioning properly, and so I was frustrated and skeptical. Since getting it back the climate control issues seemed to have been corrected.. Or at least I hope so. Auto function is working better and it was blowing cool air during all the temp ranges while in manual mode.
That's plain odd. The only software recall on the '21's is for the ABS/VDC system, which isn't even vaguely related to the HVAC. So if your HVAC is working better or different, I have no idea why.
 

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I hear you, it doesn't make any sense. All I know is that so far it seems to be functioning like it should. Maybe it's just a fluke
 
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