So, I checked that connector, it has ground, it has power on 5, but no power on 21 and 22. Is there any fuse for that? I checked the interior fuses, all the ones that possibly could be related to that, the ones under the steering wheel, but all of them seems to be good.
2016 Pathfinder, no electricity whatsoever.
Hi guys, just bought the car from auto auction, listed as non start. Car came with coolant in the oil, so I'll be throwing a new engine in it. But. I noticed that the car doesn't have any power, like electrical power in the car whatsoever. Put a new battery in it for a test, checked all the battery fuses, all good, but nothing works. No lights when opening doors, no instrument cluster, ignition doesn't respond, nothing.
Only thing I found is powered is the hazard lights, but not the headlights, hazards only.
Any ideas what I should look for? I thought maybe BCM is fried, but in that case at least other modules will be powered.
Only thing I found is powered is the hazard lights, but not the headlights, hazards only.
Any ideas what I should look for? I thought maybe BCM is fried, but in that case at least other modules will be powered.
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There are a crapload more fuses under the hood in the IPDM and the Fuse&Relay Box, plus a few more in the small fuseboxes on the cowl and in front of the main F&R Box. Check all of them. I'll have a look at the power distribution and see if there's a common spot which could make both of those pins go cold.
Ok, I will. Thank you one more time. Let me know if you'll be able to find something, please.There are a crapload more fuses under the hood in the IPDM and the Fuse&Relay Box, plus a few more in the small fuseboxes on the cowl and in front of the main F&R Box. Check all of them. I'll have a look at the power distribution and see if there's a common spot which could make both of those pins go cold.
This has to be a localized wiring problem. The Acc-2 Relay which feeds pin 5 is powered by the same source as the Battery feed on pin 22, so the problem can't be with the source. It also can't be with the big wire into the cabin fusebox or you'd have a lot of other systems down. Is it possible this is a flood or rat car? The one thing different between 5 and 22 is that the Acc-2 Relay is halfway across the car in the cowl F&R, and the fuse that feeds it is in the small F&R just in front of the big one. So the power for pin 5 takes a very different route to get there. I'd suggest pulling the fusebox loose and popping open the the big Super Multiple Junction (SMJ) connectors to see if you have green pins in them or chewed wires, that sort of thing.
No, its definitely not a flood car, but I can see it possible that the car sat for a while. It's been driven before head gasket failure, that's for sure. After that it's probably been 6 month to a year, and then I got the car. However, I haven't find any traces of an animals.This has to be a localized wiring problem. The Acc-2 Relay which feeds pin 5 is powered by the same source as the Battery feed on pin 22, so the problem can't be with the source. It also can't be with the big wire into the cabin fusebox or you'd have a lot of other systems down. Is it possible this is a flood or rat car? The one thing different between 5 and 22 is that the Acc-2 Relay is halfway across the car in the cowl F&R, and the fuse that feeds it is in the small F&R just in front of the big one. So the power for pin 5 takes a very different route to get there. I'd suggest pulling the fusebox loose and popping open the the big Super Multiple Junction (SMJ) connectors to see if you have green pins in them or chewed wires, that sort of thing.
Which fuse box you're saying to take off? The IPDM? Also, is there any way to check the connection with continuity? And also, what about HVAC and entertainment system, will it help if I'll check those connectors as well to narrow down the list of possibilities? Or they getting powered the same way as instrument cluster?
No, the cabin fusebox. The SMJ's on an R52 are buried, you can't get at them to inspect anything without popping the lower dash and taking the fusebox loose. The problem with the SMJ's is that they aren't weatherproof and a clogged sunroof or leaky windshield gasket will usually drip right on top of them. The HVAC is supplied by the same Ig supply, so if you solve the mystery for the cluster you'll probably solve it for the HVAC as well.Which fuse box you're saying to take off? The IPDM? Also, is there any way to check the connection with continuity? And also, what about HVAC and entertainment system, will it help if I'll check those connectors as well to narrow down the list of possibilities?
Ok, thanks for explanation, I'll take it apart and inspect it. Which connector I should look for? Also, you said the source can't be the problem, but where the pins 21-22 takes power from? So I can possibly track it down, just keep checking for power, since that acc-2 relay is powered.No, the cabin fusebox. The SMJ's on an R52 are buried, you can't get at them to inspect anything without popping the lower dash and taking the fusebox loose. The problem with the SMJ's is that they aren't weatherproof and a clogged sunroof or leaky windshield gasket will usually drip right on top of them. The HVAC is supplied by the same Ig supply, so if you solve the mystery for the cluster you'll probably solve it for the HVAC as well.
Duh, I think I found your problem. See if the extended storage switch in the cabin fusebox is pulled out. It's the big white thing in the middle of the box, it has to be pushed in for fuses 1~4 and 11~16 to get power.
I'll take a look on it first thing tomorrow morning. Thank you. Hopefully that's just a switch and that's it.Duh, I think I found your problem. See if the extended storage switch in the cabin fusebox is pulled out. It's the big white thing in the middle of the box, it has to be pushed in for fuses 1~4 and 11~16 to get power.
You was right. In a matter of fact, I'm completely missing that switch.Duh, I think I found your problem. See if the extended storage switch in the cabin fusebox is pulled out. It's the big white thing in the middle of the box, it has to be pushed in for fuses 1~4 and 11~16 to get power.
And also, do I have to have that bottom connector on the right? I checked with the pictures online and they do have it, but I don't.Duh, I think I found your problem. See if the extended storage switch in the cabin fusebox is pulled out. It's the big white thing in the middle of the box, it has to be pushed in for fuses 1~4 and 11~16 to get power.
Yes, that should be connector M4. The harness layout artwork isn't real clear in that area, but I think all three connectors should be on the same harness branch. They're all on Main, the other two are M3 and M68.
You definitely need to find it and plug it in. It's a power transfer connector from the fusebox to a whole lot of stuff on the Main Harness. Half the crap in the dashboard and centerstack won't work with it unplugged.
I don't get it how I did not noticed from the start but I found my problem. Somebody vandalized the car. I'll have to go to a dealer to get a full new harness. Just wondering, are those three connectors in the same braid that goes together?You definitely need to find it and plug it in. It's a power transfer connector from the fusebox to a whole lot of stuff on the Main Harness. Half the crap in the dashboard and centerstack won't work with it unplugged.
Not sure what you mean by the same braid, but I think they're all on the same branch of the Main Harness which runs south from the steering crossmember to the fusebox. I'd hit a JY and try to find a mate for that, it's pretty much the same connector on all the R52's ('13~'20). If you need to move pins around I can show you how, unpinning isn't as complicated as people think.
Could you please send me a pin map of that connector that I missing? I got one more connector like that but it came from Infiniti and colors are a little different. Also, this wiring has couple wires of the same green color, how do I tell which one I should use for what pin?Not sure what you mean by the same braid, but I think they're all on the same branch of the Main Harness which runs south from the steering crossmember to the fusebox. I'd hit a JY and try to find a mate for that, it's pretty much the same connector on all the R52's ('13~'20). If you need to move pins around I can show you how, unpinning isn't as complicated as people think.
Also, half of the cut wires supposed to go to that plug that I'm holding in hands. On donor car that plug continues, but on this Pathfinder I can't find where it goes. Also, on internet I found that this plug is just taped to the wiring, but doesn't have anything that goes from it. This is plug I'm talking aboutNot sure what you mean by the same braid, but I think they're all on the same branch of the Main Harness which runs south from the steering crossmember to the fusebox. I'd hit a JY and try to find a mate for that, it's pretty much the same connector on all the R52's ('13~'20). If you need to move pins around I can show you how, unpinning isn't as complicated as people think.
I'll try to locate that other connector later. Sorry about the delay, I had a problem with my PDF reader. Here are some more wires from the Rear Defogger section. 3P is the Ignition-1 relay trigger from the BCM, 6P is power into the BCM, 7P is power to the HVAC. 4P and 5P only exist if the car has heated mirrors. I'll need to figure out the rest tomorrow at the shop, the PDF diagrams aren't searchable so they're a lot harder to work with than the EWD:
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Oh, don't be sorry, your help is incredible and I'm super grateful for that. Thank you for all your help. Yeah, I'll try to get as much info and probably will start putting it together Monday. Only thing that bothers me is the same-color wires. Is it possible that they just duplicating each other and doesn't matter which wire of those two same-colored wires I'll use?I'll try to locate that other connector later. Sorry about the delay, I had a problem with my PDF reader. Here are some more wires from the Rear Defogger section. 3P is the Ignition-1 relay trigger from the BCM, 6P is power into the BCM, 7P is power to the HVAC. 4P and 5P only exist if the car has heated mirrors. I'll need to figure out the rest tomorrow at the shop, the PDF diagrams aren't searchable so they're a lot harder to work with than the EWD:
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