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spdracerUT said:
I'm making around 50 more whp, weigh 300 lbs less, and still got my ass kicked. Granted, it was my first time at the track, but at best I'd only be able to pull even. And I have probably one of the best sorted out daily driven se-r's out there. His car is better balanced and you can fit bigger tires. You just can't put down as much power in a FWD car.

Well, those are my observations!

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Turbo's and FWD are a particularly bad choice for a track car. I doubt he would have the same effect to my 185whp NA car with a Quaife. ITR's can beat lots of RWD cars on a roadcourse. I have a event at Virginia Int. Raceway in 2 weeks. I will know better then (the S13 friend is coming as well). I am still not saying that a b14 is a better choice then a s13 but I am saying that done right they can have very good potential. S13 has a great deal more potential. I have never understood the fasination with a FWD turbo car.
 

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Turbo's and FWD are a particularly bad choice for a track car.
Hmm... well, I think that depends on the setup. I stuck with a t25 because I wanted my power to come on smoothly, which is does. It basically just feels like I have a lot more displacement. I have full stock boost(7-8psi) at ~2500k and the power goes up linearly from there; there's no big jump in HP, there's just more of it. If I had a big, laggy turbo, I'd agree that it would be a bad choice for a track car.

Whether you have a turbo or not, there's a physical limit to how much power you can put down. My stock VLSD was working well enough where I'd spin the outside wheel if I overpowered it exiting a corner. I was cornering and accelerating as fast as the available traction would allow me. Ah yes, the limit of 205 wide tires :(

Steve, I think we should trade cars sometime :) It'd be fun! Oh, I thought about a VE, but at the time, it was much cheaper to just go turbo and my motor was still relatively fresh.
 

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spdracerUT said:
Hmm... well, I think that depends on the setup. I stuck with a t25 because I wanted my power to come on smoothly, which is does. It basically just feels like I have a lot more displacement. I have full stock boost(7-8psi) at ~2500k and the power goes up linearly from there; there's no big jump in HP, there's just more of it. If I had a big, laggy turbo, I'd agree that it would be a bad choice for a track car.

Whether you have a turbo or not, there's a physical limit to how much power you can put down. My stock VLSD was working well enough where I'd spin the outside wheel if I overpowered it exiting a corner. I was cornering and accelerating as fast as the available traction would allow me. Ah yes, the limit of 205 wide tires :(

Steve, I think we should trade cars sometime :) It'd be fun! Oh, I thought about a VE, but at the time, it was much cheaper to just go turbo and my motor was still relatively fresh.
I am curious to see how much wheelspin I get with the VE and Quaife. I will probably try the street tires to start with a then switch over to my R tires. Just curious to see if my experiance is the same as yours. Just another question. Do you have a aftermarket front swaybar or is it stock? I am sure on the street your turbo would be faster. I am not so sure on the track. Interesting comparision though isn't it. If you were not so far away we could trade rides.
 

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If I had money....I would blow both engines up. heh. I would keep boosting both of them until they both blew up. then we would know which can take the boost better. unless this is already proven and documented of course.....I know this about a 200 vs. 240 but I want to see this test happen. if only someone on here had some money
 
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if you honestly want to know what car to get, you might want to tell us a little more about what you want, need, and know. i just hope you don't base your buying decision on all this incomplete (and a lot of it) incorrect information. there are an array of different 200's!!! so don't think they are all your fwd 1.6 or 2 liter option. anyway have fun with whatever you decide. to most of you who replied and failed miserably to give this guy any COMPLETE information, you suck! later keep cool
 

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if you honestly want to know what car to get, you might want to tell us a little more about what you want, need, and know. i just hope you don't base your buying decision on all this incomplete (and a lot of it) incorrect information. there are an array of different 200's!!! so don't think they are all your fwd 1.6 or 2 liter option. anyway have fun with whatever you decide. to most of you who replied and failed miserably to give this guy any COMPLETE information, you suck! later keep cool
Like you were so helpfull. :rolleyes:
 

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F/F rules

allrigt...I just want to state the obvious here... This is an argument over which is better...F/F or F/R.... It is the accepted notion that F/R setup is the best for racing in a car...F/F cars have always been regaurded as economy cars with no racing potential.. I just want to point out to people that in all of racing history..people have expirimented with F/F cars and how well they race... It has been well documented that F/F cars are extreamly good race cars..if set up correctly. Look at the Nissan Primera... it is among nissan's greatest race cars..and its F/F...Also...the original mini cooper is a good example too... I am really in defense of F/F cars because I have a passion and a love for them.. I just recently purchased a '84 Nissan 200sx turbo...its F/R, so I am going to be tasting what that is like.. I am not sure where I will fall in this matter...but I just know that I love my se-r...ive driven RWD BMWs and AWD Audis...and in the end..i always love my Se-r
 

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thenissangod said:
if you honestly want to know what car to get, you might want to tell us a little more about what you want, need, and know. i just hope you don't base your buying decision on all this incomplete (and a lot of it) incorrect information. there are an array of different 200's!!! so don't think they are all your fwd 1.6 or 2 liter option. anyway have fun with whatever you decide. to most of you who replied and failed miserably to give this guy any COMPLETE information, you suck! later keep cool

why dont you point him in the right direction for true "COMPLETE information"
 
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