I'm in the process of buying an 05 1.8s special edition and curious as to what a good price would be to aim for while negotiating. The dealer has told me the sticker price is 15,900 for the 5 speed I want. I am also planning on going w/a company they work w/to install a sunroof w/lifetime warranty which should be an additional 700-800$. That will put me at a sticker price of around 16,700. Not counting any incentives like cash back options, etc.. what would be a reasonable amount to talk them down from this? Thanks in advance for any advice.