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post #16 of 58 Old Aug 8th, 2003, 03:27 PM
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The recall notic I got said they will reprogram the ECM too prevent future damage too the pre-cat. If so will this alter the power out put. I bought a 175hp car it better stay a 175hp car after the recall.
I live in Canada so yes Canadian cars will also recive the recall.

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post #17 of 58 Old Aug 9th, 2003, 01:32 AM
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I just got the recall performed, also had them turn the rear rotors (brakes were pulsating), and replace the front driver seat (guess my fat @ss was too much for it, was worn to the metal on the door side).

Results, they don't change the precat or do anything like that, as long as the CEL has not come on and stayed, said that would let them know if there was a need to replace the precat/header.

They do reprogram the ECU, apparently, this and some major stuff that requires an immediate oil change was done. My car is 200% different after the recall. The rev used to be quick up and down, now little slower up and has the hang time of a basketball player on the way down. like 3 or 4 times slower. Almost like your in 2nd and at 5 grand and then let off the gas. Anyway, the engine now seems torquier throughout the range and driveablity has improved, however, the car does not seem as fast. It feels like some ponies have been let out of the stall.

Can anyone dyno after the recall and post the results? I believe a spec v goes 141 HP and 157 TQ Stock before the recall. Not sure about SE-R, prob around 138 HP and 152 TQ.

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post #18 of 58 Old Aug 10th, 2003, 03:43 PM
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ii got it in the mail today...its also for 04 models too...taking it in tommrow
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post #19 of 58 Old Aug 11th, 2003, 01:17 PM
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Let us know what you think after the recall is performed.

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post #20 of 58 Old Aug 12th, 2003, 01:27 PM
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I got my recall in the mail for my 04 SE-R
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post #21 of 58 Old Aug 14th, 2003, 08:24 PM
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i had the reprogram done yesterday they checked the cat and said i was fine and didnt need a motor but the program they used pulled quite a bit of hp out of the motor my 04ser used to have a tourqe steer problem when getting on it hard but not any more and the gas miledge went up by about 5 miles per gallon from what the trip computor says had i known it would be that much of a change i would have gotten a header and left it stock i wish i new the dyno #s befor and after the change
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post #22 of 58 Old Aug 15th, 2003, 01:22 AM
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Dyno numbers

Yah, you and me both... I get about 2 mpg better than before, but hp seems incredibly lower. Now will prob have to get the car chipped to see same hp as before. Damn I wish I'd known it was going to be this much of a change.

If neone dynos please post results.

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post #23 of 58 Old Aug 16th, 2003, 06:21 AM
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OK, I'm confused.

The info originally posted says '02-'03 Altimas and '02 Sentras. But it looks like people with 03 and even 04 cars are getting notices.

I have an '03 Spec. Have heard nothing so far.

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post #24 of 58 Old Aug 16th, 2003, 12:50 PM
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Yah, typical nissan smoke and mirrors, were saying that only certain vins for 02/03 were effected because they corrected the issue in house, now looking more like they never corrected anything, probably more like one supplier was giving them sub-standard parts and to avoid replacing them, they are just making the engines calmer and less aggressive. I hope your car is not affected, it sux to lose the ponies.

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i have an 02 spec, and its in the shop right now, they've called me and said that they are in the process of putting a new engine in it. to much shit got sucked up. don't have it back though, so no test drive info
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I have an 04 Spec V I just took delivery on (posted a topic in the newb forum, cause it got sideswiped while parked for 3000 dollars worth of damage), and I called the dealer today after dropping it at the body shop, and he said the recall was for the 02's and 03's, and that 04's should NOT be affected. Also, he stated the loss in horsepower was "significant" and I would "definitely notice it".

Now here's my thing... The Spec V is just a freakin' Sentra with a (what I thought was) decent engine. Why would I want this car when I could have gotten an 04 Civic Si for $5000 off sticker (in the Northeast US)??? Anyone spoken to their dealers about they buying it back? I'd rather get out of this now if the car isn't going to be as fast or fun after I get the work done, if I even need it done.

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Don't get the Civic SI. What a joke. Keep the Spec V.

On another note, my gas mileage went up by 5 mpg after the recall.

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I hate the loss in horsepower, yes it is very noticable, I probably wouldn't have bought it had it been like this from the get go, but now here I am stuck with it, and it's not the car I bought. I wish there was a legal thing that could be done, after all, you buy a car with stated horsepower, they should not be able to do something to it that changes that significantly. If it was only capable of a certain level of performance without destroying itself, then that should have been the stated hp. I'm obviously upset about it. Gas mileage went up about 1 mpg. If I wanted a car that had better gas mileage I'd have bought a civic or a saturn, for nearly 40 mpg, I purchased the ser for performance at a bargain price, which is now gone.

If you get the recall done, and your not upset, that's good for you. I think most of us will be upset about this. If you don't get the recall done, you may have a toasted motor around warranty end and have no recourse by not having performed the recall. Screwed either way.

As the saying goes, grin and bear it. When the payoff equals the trade in, I'm trading in on anything but a Nissan. The ignorance and worthlessness of the dealers combined with this crap from Nissan has put me to a point such that I would rate them with American auto manufacturers. I'll probably purchase a Subaru or Mazda the next time around.

Good luck to you all!

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post #29 of 58 Old Oct 20th, 2003, 10:22 PM
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I just got my recall notice over the weekend.

Haven't called the stealership yet. I hate those guys

Hopefully, the better mileage will make up for the loss in horsepower. Probably not, though ...

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well im taking my spec v in tomarrow and they are going to do the ecm deal and check the pre-cat the real bummer is i use synthetic oil and i have to bring my own oil and filter to the dealer as far as the performance goes someone should do a dyno test before and after the ecm mod and if the horsepower drops we could have a class action lawsuit agaist nissan i will drag race my car after this ecm deal is done so far ive gone 15.1/90 with a cat back (thermal) and cai and pulley i will post drag strip numbers as soon as i race the car ..as far as the fuel economy goes i get 27 mpg thas waht its supposed to get i dont want to loose any more horsepower either

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