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Old Feb 28th, 2005, 04:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Why isn't there a Nismo supercharger?

Why isn't there a Nismo supercharger? There aren't that many supercharges for the 350Z out there anyway, but I just was wondering if anyone has heard of one. I have been looking and can't find one. I am trying to find a powerful supercharger that won't void the warranty. You would think that there would be alot of people that want one. I mean the Mustang has a supercharged version. Toyota offers superchargers for lots of their cars through TRD that don't void the warranty. Why not Nismo?
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Old Feb 28th, 2005, 04:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Because Stillen (who works with Nissan) made it already.
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Old Feb 28th, 2005, 06:55 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Because Stillen (who works with Nissan) made it already.
Missinformation from you young one.

Why would they? Nissan is exploring the NA realm of things with the 350Z. They are not concerned with FI and they have no plans to develop a FI system (which would not be an S/C even if they did). Most of it is due to cost there wouldn't be enough return and the car would no longer be affordable.

In fact there is a big long thread about this somewhere in this section.
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Old Feb 28th, 2005, 06:57 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Why make 2 superchargers, for the same car, for roughly the same price...

Nissan is being skiddish about getting back into FI. But with the new tuner market. A small compact turboed car I think would do well for Nissan.

Nissan might not be looking into FI, but that doesn't mean Nismo doesn't.
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Old Feb 28th, 2005, 07:08 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Why make 2 superchargers, for the same car, for roughly the same price...

Nissan is being skiddish about getting back into FI. But with the new tuner market. A small compact turboed car I think would do well for Nissan.

Nissan might not be looking into FI, but that doesn't mean Nismo doesn't.
Nismo is not. Nismo is a part of Nissan they are their in-house tuner. Stillen is not; go do research before you post. Also if you read more you will find why they are not developing NA now.
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Old Feb 28th, 2005, 07:27 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Mostly for emissions purposes, I think. They had a hard time getting the 96 TT Z emissions compliant, which is a big part of the reason it was missing 20+ HP...... Same reason the 95 (94?) Supras were all automatics, they couldn't get the 6-spd emissions compliant in time for sale.
It's a lot easier and cheaper to get a 2.0-2.5 liter turbo engine emissions ready than it is for a 3.0-3.5 liter. I don't doubt to keep costs down that's why Nissan went NA with this Z. Besides, I'm sure they figured the aftermarket tuners would have that problem well covered.....
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Old Mar 1st, 2005, 09:10 AM   #7 (permalink)
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But Toyota offers superchargers for many of their engines including the Celica, the Camry, and the 4Runner. Some making 50 hp gains. That's not great but under warranty, its not bad. 287+50=337. I would like that and it would be worth a couple thousand to me and I think there are other people out there that would agree. 340hp has a ring to it if you ask me. Then as a next step 400, but first things first.
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But Toyota offers superchargers for many of their engines including the Celica, the Camry, and the 4Runner. Some making 50 hp gains. That's not great but under warranty, its not bad. 287+50=337. I would like that and it would be worth a couple thousand to me and I think there are other people out there that would agree. 340hp has a ring to it if you ask me. Then as a next step 400, but first things first.
Why don't you just go buy a turbo kit or the Vortech supercharger it would be cheaper then anything Nissan could ever offer. Nissan is not interested in FI with the 350Z they aren't going to develop it. Either get used to factory NA or go buy an aftermarket supercharger or turbocharger kit.
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Why make 2 superchargers, for the same car, for roughly the same price...

Nissan is being skiddish about getting back into FI. But with the new tuner market. A small compact turboed car I think would do well for Nissan.

Nissan might not be looking into FI, but that doesn't mean Nismo doesn't.
Why make 2 exhausts, or 2 sets of swaybars, or 2 body kits, etc... Stillen designs/makes their own stuff, and Nissan Motorsports designs/makes their own stuff. Stillen and nismo and many others share the same types of products for relatively the same prices. Why would nismo give a flip if Stillen has already assembled an SC kit?

Also, on a general note; not all nismo parts are warranted. I got the CAI for my Z33 and it isn't covered under any warranty. The "S-tune" products (like suspension, exhaust, etc... are warranted, the "R-tune" products like headers, cams, and for some weird reason the CAI, are not warranted by Nissan or nismo.
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the CAI is probably not warranty item because you can suck up water and hydrolock the engine.

As for why Nissan wouldn't develop a forced induction system for the Z... one reason I can think of is it'd get into the upcoming Skylines power range (which will have some twin turbo version of the VQ from rumors).

And besides, you shouldn't have to worry about blowing up the motor if you do a proper install with a good kit. I said screw the warrenty on my SE-R 25k miles into owning it. Slapped a turbo on it around 70k miles and haven't looked back with 125k miles on the motor now. Do it right, and you won't have to worry about anything.
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Maybe there are not a lot of those out there becase that motor can't hande anymore boost than 8psi, and they don't want to see people slingin rods and shit with their part...

Stop being a pussy and go all motor.
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Maybe there are not a lot of those out there becase that motor can't hande anymore boost than 8psi, and they don't want to see people slingin rods and shit with their part...
No they would just set the boost to a safe level such as 5psi. But if you went higher than that well, looks like bye bye warranty

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Stop being a pussy and go all motor.

Yeah I'd like to see your powerful "all motor" ride go up against a FI car...


Wouldn't have a chance.

EDIT : By the way watch your language.
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Stop being a pussy and go all motor.
Yeah and still watch stock Vettes walk away from you. Great IDEA!!!! You can maybe get just over 300rwhp out of the engine for street use. FI is the only way to make any real good power with the VQ35DE. Nissan is exploring the NA realm these days and is not going to offer a Z33 with any sort of FI. It isn't because the engine can't necessarily handle it it is because of the cost of FI.
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For the 6 grand you would put in your "all motor monster" I could put 6 grand in mine and triple or quadruple your gains.
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For the 6 grand you would put in your "all motor monster" I could put 6 grand in mine and triple or quadruple your gains.
With that particular motor and the boost it can handle I don't know that your statment would be true.
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