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Old Dec 9th, 2003, 04:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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1996 300ZX vs. Fairlady Z question

So, a question that I can't find the answer to anywhere on the net: were the US spec and JDM Z32s identical in 1996? Pictures I can find make it look like they were but I'm not sure.

OK, one more: the JDM had a couple cosmetic and structural changes through 1998. Did those affect the car's acceleration or top speed?

Do y'all wish they'd continued to bring the car to the US through 1998, or was it good enough through 1996?

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Old Dec 9th, 2003, 05:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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the jdm front facia was different, emissions is different over there so the exhaust set up is different. acceleration and top speed stayed about the same for both. not to sound like a dick but what kinda question is "do you wish they'd continued to bring the car to the us"? i take it your not a z driver because if you were you would know the answer to that question. other than that thats all i know about what your asking ... maybe check out twinturbo.net or 300zxclub.com
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Old Dec 9th, 2003, 07:13 PM   #3 (permalink)
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So, a question that I can't find the answer to anywhere on the net: were the US spec and JDM Z32s identical in 1996? Pictures I can find make it look like they were but I'm not sure.

OK, one more: the JDM had a couple cosmetic and structural changes through 1998. Did those affect the car's acceleration or top speed?

Do y'all wish they'd continued to bring the car to the US through 1998, or was it good enough through 1996?

thanks all,
-RA
-As far as engines, the cams are different. Jspec have a better to 60 mph and the US has a better 60 mph on.

-Also the Jspec has down pipes and the US has precats.

-96-99 all Z32 eliminated the V-tec?

I would think the Jspec Z would be faster with the DP's and the higher octane gas they have over there.

The Jspec Z (89-98) looked identical to the US models except for.

-The front corner lens were clear plastic unlike the US with had a cloudy white and yellow front corner lens.

-The fog lights had parking lights in them.

-The front garnish had the Z symbol unlike the US Z which had the Nissan hamburger logo except the first year the Z was introducted in 89.

-Also the rear corner lens was amber unlike the US which was red.

-In 99 the Z32 under went a slight face lift, with Xenon HIDs, new facial, side skirts, and new rear lights and center panel.

- Body also got more structural support.

Did I forget anything else??
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Old Dec 14th, 2003, 04:12 PM   #4 (permalink)
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96-99 all Z32 eliminated the V-tec?
Eggghhhummmm...


No Z EVER had VTEC nor any Nissan ever built. VTEC is HONDA. Nissan has VVL only the SR series engines.. SR20VE SR16VE and SR20VET.

VVL is similar to Honda's VTEC.. but was not introduced until 1999.

Earlier 300ZX's and Z32's had SOHC (single overhead cam)
Later Z32's had DOHC (Dual overhead cams)
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Old Dec 15th, 2003, 12:16 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Eggghhhummmm...


No Z EVER had VTEC nor any Nissan ever built. VTEC is HONDA. Nissan has VVL only the SR series engines.. SR20VE SR16VE and SR20VET.

VVL is similar to Honda's VTEC.. but was not introduced until 1999.

Earlier 300ZX's and Z32's had SOHC (single overhead cam)
Later Z32's had DOHC (Dual overhead cams)
You know what a Vtec does right? The Z has the same technology they just call it VVT (Variable Valve Timing). Honda beat Nissan on the name VTEC (patent) so Nissan called it VVT and not VVL.

The term Vtec was used because it's the most recognized name when describing any variable valve timing in a engine.

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There was never a Z32 made with in SOHC ever. Ever wonder what VG30DETT or VG30DE ever mean't?? Guess what the "D" stands for? If you still don't believe me your more then welcome to uses Google?

You are right about the earlier Z31.
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yes and NO!

You are right about the VVT system... that is what they call Nissan's VTEC or VVT... however when you look at engines with VVT they are OFTEN called VVL engines.. which incorporates the VVT technology.

However.. what you are WRONG about is that earlier 300ZX's or Z31's had VG30E engines and VG30ET engines. 1984-1989

The Later 300ZX's or Z32's had VG30DETT D standing for Dual Overhead Cam from 1990-1996 and VG30DE engines without the turbo.

Also in some lower regions that had 300ZX's such as the Philipines...
The 1990 Z32 300ZX was found with an variant of the VG30E engine from the earlier Z31's.

Don't believe me! Try a search on www.google.com or

www.ZHOME.com which is where I got my information.
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Oh yeh... almost forgot...

Although the VVT system was introduced much later 1999-ish

The Z32's have Nissan Valve Timing Control System (NVCS).
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yes and NO!

You are right about the VVT system... that is what they call Nissan's VTEC or VVT... however when you look at engines with VVT they are OFTEN called VVL engines.. which incorporates the VVT technology.

However.. what you are WRONG about is that earlier 300ZX's or Z31's had VG30E engines and VG30ET engines. 1984-1989

The Later 300ZX's or Z32's had VG30DETT D standing for Dual Overhead Cam from 1990-1996 and VG30DE engines without the turbo.
Do you know how to read. This is what I said,

"There was never a Z32 made with in SOHC ever. Ever wonder what VG30DETT or VG30DE ever mean't?? Guess what the "D" stands for? If you still don't believe me your more then welcome to uses Google?

You are right about the earlier Z31. "

So how am I wrong??? (scratching my head??) Please explain logically?

BTW did you read the beginning of the thread?


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Quote from raceart,"1996 300ZX vs. Fairlady Z question
So, a question that I can't find the answer to anywhere on the net: were the US spec and JDM Z32s identical in 1996? Pictures I can find make it look like they were but I'm not sure.

OK, one more: the JDM had a couple cosmetic and structural changes through 1998. Did those affect the car's acceleration or top speed?

Do y'all wish they'd continued to bring the car to the US through 1998, or was it good enough through 1996?

thanks all,
-RA"
Where in the post did he mentioned out side of the US? He just compared it to US VS Jspec, right?

Also you mentioned this,

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"Also in some lower regions that had 300ZX's such as the Philipines...
The 1990 Z32 300ZX was found with an variant of the VG30E engine from the earlier Z31's."
Please show me the exact link to your claim???

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Old Dec 15th, 2003, 10:45 PM   #9 (permalink)
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You know what a Vtec does right? The Z has the same technology they just call it VVT (Variable Valve Timing). Honda beat Nissan on the name VTEC (patent) so Nissan called it VVT and not VVL.

The term Vtec was used because it's the most recognized name when describing any variable valve timing in a engine.

BTW, There was never a Z32 made with in SOHC ever. Ever wonder what VG30DETT or VG30DE ever mean't?? Guess what the "D" stands for? If you still don't believe me your more then welcome to uses Google?

You are right about the earlier Z31.
Its VTC, not VVT.

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yes and NO!

You are right about the VVT system... that is what they call Nissan's VTEC or VVT... however when you look at engines with VVT they are OFTEN called VVL engines.. which incorporates the VVT technology.

However.. what you are WRONG about is that earlier 300ZX's or Z31's had VG30E engines and VG30ET engines. 1984-1989

The Later 300ZX's or Z32's had VG30DETT D standing for Dual Overhead Cam from 1990-1996 and VG30DE engines without the turbo.

Also in some lower regions that had 300ZX's such as the Philipines...
The 1990 Z32 300ZX was found with an variant of the VG30E engine from the earlier Z31's.

Don't believe me! Try a search on www.google.com or

www.ZHOME.com which is where I got my information.
The Z32 Never had a VG30E.

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First off. VTC and VTEC like systems are completely differenct. VTC refers to the ability of a CAM to switch it's timeing on the fly. VTEC (and like systems) refer to the ability of the valvetrain to lock rocker arms, on the fly, together and be driven by a completely different cam profile. i-VTEC and VVTi employ both these schemes.

Second, can anyone actually list the changes made in the JDM Z32 from 1996 to 1999?
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Old Dec 16th, 2003, 11:26 AM   #12 (permalink)
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First off. VTC and VTEC like systems are completely differenct. VTC refers to the ability of a CAM to switch it's timeing on the fly. VTEC (and like systems) refer to the ability of the valvetrain to lock rocker arms, on the fly, together and be driven by a completely different cam profile. i-VTEC and VVTi employ both these schemes.

Second, can anyone actually list the changes made in the JDM Z32 from 1996 to 1999?
Very informative, we were using the term loosely, ok? I'm assuming you want a chronological order of the improvments of the Z32 through 96-99? Maybe a Z guy from Japan could give us that info?
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Well...
I don't know everything...

But I did mention some info over some stuff I thought I knew 100% about.

There was however some Z32's with VG30E engines.. i will look it up exactly.. but I know there is one..

I drifted way off topic and didn't stick to USDM...

so.. I'm sorry.. fine you HAPPY!

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