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Old Sep 2nd, 2004, 01:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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crankcase ventilation with hard pipes

Hey, I was just wondering about this- when I put my hardpipes on- what happens with my crankcase ventilation. I was planning on getting k&n mini filters in the sizes I needed for the A.I.V and for the Valve Cover- but with a boosted engine is there something saying that I need to run a line from after the turbo on the intake piping like the stock pipe? Why wouldnt I just be able to do it 69 camaro style and use the K&N filters?

Is it going to be ok- I think it should be fine, but your thoughts would be appreciated
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Old Sep 3rd, 2004, 09:03 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Old Sep 3rd, 2004, 09:17 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Hey, I was just wondering about this- when I put my hardpipes on- what happens with my crankcase ventilation. I was planning on getting k&n mini filters in the sizes I needed for the A.I.V and for the Valve Cover- but with a boosted engine is there something saying that I need to run a line from after the turbo on the intake piping like the stock pipe? Why wouldnt I just be able to do it 69 camaro style and use the K&N filters?

Is it going to be ok- I think it should be fine, but your thoughts would be appreciated
I could perhaps respond to this if you were speaking english........ Take a deep breath first.......
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Old Sep 3rd, 2004, 09:29 AM   #4 (permalink)
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read slower school boy. answer this while im looking for your mhgs!

basically- when I use aluminum pipes, the lines that go to the aiv and the valve cover are not going to be hooked up. is it going to be a problem to just hook it up like an n/a car and use the smaller k&n. The way the stock line to the crankcase is set up is that boost runs through the crankcase. When I put hardpipes on and use the filters is that going to cause any problems?
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read slower school boy. answer this while im looking for your mhgs!

basically- when I use aluminum pipes, the lines that go to the aiv and the valve cover are not going to be hooked up. is it going to be a problem to just hook it up like an n/a car and use the smaller k&n. The way the stock line to the crankcase is set up is that boost runs through the crankcase. When I put hardpipes on and use the filters is that going to cause any problems?
Yeah I was gonna do that myself one of these days. I don't see why that would be a problem. Not sure of Nissans logic on running boost through the valve covers , makes more sense to use vacuum.........Are you sure of the line placement? Seems a bit odd to me.
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Old Sep 7th, 2004, 01:57 PM   #6 (permalink)
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yeah I sure am man, check it out on yours- I will complete it sometime this week and let you know how it goes- with the hurricanes and all it has been pretty rough, now there is another one coming too though- so we will see
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Old Sep 7th, 2004, 05:20 PM   #7 (permalink)
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high performance motors usually run a catch can right there, and vent the catch can.. atleast thats what we do in the dsm world...
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A catch can on the intake? Maybe I should know this, but define "catch can" b/c I dont understand what you mean man
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A catch can on the intake? Maybe I should know this, but define "catch can" b/c I dont understand what you mean man
Instead of just having a plain pipe running from teh valve cover to the intake , most performance guys install a "catch can" there. Basically this is a jar-like device with the vent hose from the valve cover plugged into the top , and the hose going to the intake is in the top also , but a couple cm away. This way , any oil sucked into the intake from the valve cover will instead fall into the bottom of the jar. That's the basic principal in a nutshell.........
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Yeah I was gonna do that myself one of these days. I don't see why that would be a problem. Not sure of Nissans logic on running boost through the valve covers , makes more sense to use vacuum.........Are you sure of the line placement? Seems a bit odd to me.
Don't pressrise your crankcase! The ring seal and the seals seal will be afftected badly. Vent the crankcase as close to the turbo and as away from the MAF as posible.
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Don't pressrise your crankcase! The ring seal and the seals seal will be afftected badly. Vent the crankcase as close to the turbo and as away from the MAF as posible.
You're preaching to the choir , Father , I've always heard and read that vacuum was better. In fact I've read about some of the hardercore racers using a high Hg vacuum pump attached to the block. Some have achieved around 28 Hg of vacuum in the crank case. Better ring sealing , and less parasitic losses from air being tossed around in the block by pistons moving close to 67 feet per second....

So please tell Todd that the lines from the valve cover are pre-turbo , not after.
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Instead of just having a plain pipe running from teh valve cover to the intake , most performance guys install a "catch can" there. Basically this is a jar-like device with the vent hose from the valve cover plugged into the top , and the hose going to the intake is in the top also , but a couple cm away. This way , any oil sucked into the intake from the valve cover will instead fall into the bottom of the jar. That's the basic principal in a nutshell.........
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hell I pull 22-24 HG of vacume Of course I am 12 feet below sea level
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hell I pull 22-24 HG of vacume Of course I am 12 feet below sea level
As I recall , 30 inches of vacuum is equivalent to what you'll find in space. I could be wrong....
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Yeah, the last time I was there it was about 32 psi

Let me check that thing Eric, and I will send you pictures- I hope youre write though.
Mike are you saying "dont" send boost through there? Thats what I was asking about though- why are the lines on the pipe from the turbo to the intake hooked up to the valve cover- I thought that was really retarded.

I will check it though to make sure Im wrong and Eric is right
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