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#16 Old Feb 5th, 2006, 08:56 PM
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Oh I have nothing against V8 powered cars at all. In fact, a couple of my most favorite cars were my 2001 WS6 TransAm and my 97 Camaro. I just don't think V8s belong in the Z31. Same reason you wouldn't find me putting an RB26 under the hood of a Camaro, it just doesn't belong. (Would be an interesting swap though) Its a Nissan, it should have a Nissan engine in it.

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#17 Old Feb 6th, 2006, 01:41 AM
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My favorite V8 swap:
Infiniti V8 in a Datsun Z (twin turbo no less)
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#18 Old Feb 6th, 2006, 12:41 PM
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That's a beauty you got there. What kinda times you get out of it?
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V8 swaps are weak. That's my final word on the subject.
So what would you recommend doing over V8? Maybe get a NICE V6 and a kickass turbo?
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That's a beauty you got there. What kinda times you get out of it?
It isn't mine. Belongs to a guy in Texas. Houston area I believe.

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#21 Old Feb 6th, 2006, 01:46 PM
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So what would you recommend doing over V8? Maybe get a NICE V6 and a kickass turbo?
Or an RB26.

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Personally? Who cares what someone else thinks. Do what you want to do because you want it. It is, afterall, YOUR CAR!

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Or an RB26.
Read my post about the cost of swap+mods+management and tuning. The engine isn't a practicle or even good swap in the U.S.


It is your car do what you want. You're the one who makes the decision not us. If it was me either an LS1 or a VG33ET build would go in. You have a VG30E why not swap on the turbo parts and build it; it will be the easiest of what you mentioned since you won't have to swap anything(VG33E+turbo parts won't be any harder, but you have to get the engine).

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Read my post about the cost of swap+mods+management and tuning. The engine isn't a practicle or even good swap in the U.S.


It is your car do what you want. You're the one who makes the decision not us. If it was me either an LS1 or a VG33ET build would go in. You have a VG30E why not swap on the turbo parts and build it; it will be the easiest of what you mentioned since you won't have to swap anything(VG33E+turbo parts won't be any harder, but you have to get the engine).
Cool, thanks alot guys. One final question. I mentioned this HAS to pass smog. Does that rule out any of the engines you guys are mentioning?
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Anything is possible with time and money. But what smog standards are you talking about? The RB motors supposedly won't pass any smog tests because they weren't available in any US auto. But I know a couple local 240SX people who have passed smog tests with RB20s and RB25s. I can't imagine an RB26 would be all that much more difficult.

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Cool, thanks alot guys. One final question. I mentioned this HAS to pass smog. Does that rule out any of the engines you guys are mentioning?
Any of the VGs will seeing as you have one and it has smog equipment. Since your car is not OBDII the SR and RBs can maybe work, but like ZBUM said they shouldn't pass inspection. Also the V8 swaps will pass. Since your pre-OBD is all you have to do is a sniffer test and visual? I'm lucky I don't have emissions here so I don't have to worry about it even though my Z would probably still pass...

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It's a pushrod engine because the manufacturer beleives there is still merit in pushrod engines.... GM is a bit low tech, even Ford has seen the advantages of OHC engines. The 95 ZR1 had the same Hp, out of the QOHC LT5 (Not even built by GM, because they didn't have the capability). Sad that GM had to wait 8 years to get back to that same level with a pushrod engine....

GM...lowtech??? You need to do a little research. You know why the LSx engines are so damn good?? Research them. The technology in the LS7 could blow your mind for how much one costs and what you get outta it. The LT5 was engineered by GM, except for the help on the heads from Lotus. Oh by the way, the LS7 SMALLBOCK is 427ci and revs to 7200rpm safely. Doesn't sound lowtech to me. BTW, a crate LS1 would only set you back $6000 with computer and harness!!! If you want a cheaper route, get one from a junkyard for about $1000-$2000. A swap harness with computer only runs about $700. Yes, pushrods are a little inefficient compared to OHC designed, but there is a reliability and simplicity benifit that overwhelmes the efficiency. As far as LSx performance, all I have to say is John Lingenfelter.

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My penis is low-tech, but the ladies LOVE da cawk'n'bawlz.

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GM...lowtech??? You need to do a little research. You know why the LSx engines are so damn good?? Research them. The technology in the LS7 could blow your mind for how much one costs and what you get outta it. The LT5 was engineered by GM, except for the help on the heads from Lotus. Wrong. The LT5 was engineered and built by Mercruiser Marine. GM outsourced the engine because they didn't have the ability to build it themselves. They even admitted that back in '93. Oh by the way, the LS7 SMALLBOCK is 427ci and revs to 7200rpm safely. Doesn't sound lowtech to me. BTW, a crate LS1 would only set you back $6000 with computer and harness!!!I'd like to know where you'd get one for that price. Every site I go look to at LS1 prices, they are in excess of $9000. If you want a cheaper route, get one from a junkyard for about $1000-$2000.I checked that, better go tripple or more if you want to get one. The local insurance total-out junkyard was selling them for $5500.....wholesale. A swap harness with computer only runs about $700. Yes, pushrods are a little inefficient compared to OHC designed, but there is a reliability and simplicity benifit that overwhelmes the efficiency. As far as LSx performance, all I have to say is John Lingenfelter.You're aware he's dead, right? Also, he made the LT5 scream, got more out of it that he ever did any LS1s. For those, he had to go turbo. He said so back in 92 with the LT5 "Ive never seen an engine with this much hidden potential". He pushed 600+ Hp out of those engines without resorting to forced induction. No such luck with the LS series.
Better quit while you're ahead. Oh wait, you're not......

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If you can't respect all aspects of automotive engineering, then you just need to get a moped. Just because something has pushrods, doesn't mean it's lowtech. It's real funny, the LT-5 is based on the GM LT-1 block slightly re-engineered to accept the Lotus DOHC heads.

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Funny, only runs $6025.... and is one of the most reputable companies for GM Aftermarket.....
And quite frankly, there are LS1 (they are punched and stroked in some cases) that are in excessive or 800bhp ALL MOTOR!!! Currently, Lingenfelter is running twin turbo 427 LS1 over 1000bhp, with very little boost. GM hightech slunked a turbo on a properly built LS1 (346ci) and produced over 1000bhp!! One Turbo!! Whether you want to admit it or not, these motor can and do produce plenty of power with little mods. As far as the LT5, they are nice, but pieces of shit. I have never heard of a LT5 owner never have tons of problems outta that motor.
And yes, I am very aware of John Lingenfelter being dead...

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