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Old Dec 17th, 2004, 10:09 PM   #751 (permalink)
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Hi Lukasz,

As Stephen mentioned earlier, it seems that the Canadian xtrail does not include the wiring in the rear fog light spot in the bumber.

When I removed the plastic cover from my bumper, I found the wiring already there including the socket, so all I had to do was order the rear fog light (my brother sent it to me from Europe) and plug it ino the socket provided.

BUT, I still had to take it to the electrician to wire it at the fuse box (in the engine comprtment) so I asked him to connect it to the front fog light control switch, so now evertyime I use the front fogs, the rear one comes on.

I use it mostly when doing off road drving in dusty areas, so it's purpose for me has changed from being a "fog" light to being a "dust" light instead.

And yes, it's very bright, as you can tell from the pics I posted on my web site.

I actually didn't want to use it as yet another brake light, because I have already added 2 more brake/parker lights at the top of the existing light assembly and it looks much better than being an empty dark space with no lights (I don't know why nissan chose not to illuminate the whole of the light assembly at the back).

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Yeah, I thought that might be a problem. But still a good idea.
Anywyas, you mentioned the fog light mod-I saw it on the other forum you write in, and like it.
I was hoping to find out if its legal here in Canada, and might do a similar alteration, maybe add it as a reverse light.
Just a question though, you mentioned that the wiring is in the bumper for the fog light, is it already stretched all the way to the fuse box or engine compartment?
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Old Dec 17th, 2004, 10:10 PM   #752 (permalink)
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Child / Passenger Safety

Canadian Standards have been well regarded for their high standards. As for the seats... Rear End collisions are why I would never have anyone in a thrid row seat... a few weeks ago a study that is not being carefully looked at has shown that the rear seats and passengers are at a higher danger that previously thought....the front seats collapse on the passengers in the rear in an accident this was on a major North American Automotive Van...and now all vehicles seat designs are going to be looked at. The only manufacturer with the best safety features is Volvo which has a unique design in how their seats react in an accident. It is scary.

As for rear end... look at all SUV/Van designs... having a third row seat... I have taken apart my back of the X-trail.. and all of the others are the same... their is no safety measures for a rear end collision... we all know how much damage is done on a car.. but there is a trunk area, place a third row seat next to the hatch and your asking for trouble should a passender be sitting their and you are rear ended...it's not a car with a trunk and several feet between them!

As for the Australian seats...I do not in any way think that Australian Department of Transport for Saftey is not good...but I would like to see the tests...and how and who conducted them. These seats.. are held down only by the straps!!!! Rear end the X-Trail at 5km, 10km, 15km or real world 50+km and show me the results with a child (crash test dummie) in the seats.... I am sure they would not survive... prove me wrong but I want the best safety for my passengers and children... when I saw the link to the product you mentioned... I personally would not purchase one..it does not look safe. I want to see real test...but then again it is a thrid row seat.. and I don't like them given the lack of saftey bars, etc in the rear area of SUV's and Vans.

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Hi Stephen, am sure Australian child safety standards is not any less than the Canadian one and if it has passed the safety standards in Australia, I can't see why it wouldn't in Canada?

You said that you would not place a child in these seats. May I ask why?

If you think that the child is going to be too close to the end of the car at the time of impact, they maybe yess you have a point there, but it's no different to any other set-up in any hatchback car, it's actually safer, because it's higher than the hatchback.

Anyway, these seats are designed for occasional use only and not for all time seating arrangements. I would have bought a people mover if I wanted to do that
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Old Dec 17th, 2004, 10:20 PM   #753 (permalink)
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I don't think you looked at the pics closely enough.

The seats are attached to the body of the car using "metal" brackets that are going through the plastic floor cover into the metal body of the car.

There is no way it would past the safety check if straps were being used as a permanent attachement of a child seat

I think you're confusing the seat belts that have been in-built into the seat with the metal brackets in the floor area.

As for the test results, I will see if I can get the company in question to send me these. I would be interested in seeing them as well.

At the end, I think it's a matter of personal preference, as some would like this idea and others wont. I like it, as I think every passenger in every car is under a potenital risk and one would never be able to address all aspects of safety when it comes to seating. We would have been driving a tank if that was the case

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Canadian Standards have been well regarded for their high standards. As for the seats... Rear End collisions are why I would never have anyone in a thrid row seat... a few weeks ago a study that is not being carefully looked at has shown that the rear seats and passengers are at a higher danger that previously thought....the front seats collapse on the passengers in the rear in an accident this was on a major North American Automotive Van...and now all vehicles seat designs are going to be looked at. The only manufacturer with the best safety features is Volvo which has a unique design in how their seats react in an accident. It is scary.

As for rear end... look at all SUV/Van designs... having a third row seat... I have taken apart my back of the X-trail.. and all of the others are the same... their is no safety measures for a rear end collision... we all know how much damage is done on a car.. but there is a trunk area, place a third row seat next to the hatch and your asking for trouble should a passender be sitting their and you are rear ended...it's not a car with a trunk and several feet between them!

As for the Australian seats...I do not in any way think that Australian Department of Transport for Saftey is not good...but I would like to see the tests...and how and who conducted them. These seats.. are held down only by the straps!!!! Rear end the X-Trail at 5km, 10km, 15km or real world 50+km and show me the results with a child (crash test dummie) in the seats.... I am sure they would not survive... prove me wrong but I want the best safety for my passengers and children... when I saw the link to the product you mentioned... I personally would not purchase one..it does not look safe. I want to see real test...but then again it is a thrid row seat.. and I don't like them given the lack of saftey bars, etc in the rear area of SUV's and Vans.

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Old Dec 18th, 2004, 09:39 AM   #754 (permalink)
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Words from the designer of the X-Trail

Hi all,

I just received this interesting link from Nissan Canada.

It's an explanation of the design features from the designer behind the X-Trail in his own words.

http://www.nissan.ca/en/ms/toisan/index.html
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Old Dec 18th, 2004, 11:46 AM   #755 (permalink)
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Alsterac,
Thank you so much for the link.
I learned things about our xy's that I didn't know, like being able to remove the back seat cushion and flattening the front seats for more cargo space. And I'll have to look again, but it looks like the back head rests when pulled off, even had there own spot to sit, rather than under the seat.Way to cool!
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Old Dec 20th, 2004, 08:07 AM   #756 (permalink)
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-25c with wind chill -34 - Montreal

Hello from the frozen north!!! Ok... started my car remotely this morning...got into a nice warm X-Trail...inlcuding the seats which I love....and the GoodYear UltraGrip Ice tires stuck to the road..... on my Wifes Altima with the GoodYear Assurance TripleTred tires... she juts called to say that they are fine as well.

So far so good... but I really want one good storm!!! LOL... not really but it would be nice to give it a try.

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Old Dec 20th, 2004, 11:42 AM   #757 (permalink)
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Best Wishes

Well I guess it is that time of year.. I want to wish all of you here in the X-Trail Canadian Message area a wonderful Holiday to you and your families. I would also want to wish everyone a Health, Happy and Safe New Year as well. Drive Carefully!

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Old Dec 20th, 2004, 01:38 PM   #758 (permalink)
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Yesterday I returned from McAllen, Texas, I pickup mats that Stephen sended me, (I'll send you an e-mail later), but I want to post my first impressions about the XTy..... We love it after a couple of 12 hours driving days.

Tomorrow I take pics, put what I think about it & so.

By the way, the day I leave here, Renault Scenic (France Maded) was parked outdoor & it was 2°C... & yes the temp is Blinking, unfortunatelly (or fortunatelly, I don't know) Xty didn't register that temp 'cause it was parked inside & temp raises fast.
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Old Dec 20th, 2004, 04:02 PM   #759 (permalink)
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Merry X-mas and Happy New Year

Hi Guys,

A very merry xmas and a happy new year to you and your families from the land of "hot" x-mases and sunny new years

I miss the white xmas and new year "sometimes"
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Old Dec 20th, 2004, 07:40 PM   #760 (permalink)
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Speakers

Hi, this is my first time here. I just got an X-Trail (Silver AWD XE 5spd) and the stereo really sucks. Does anyone know how are the speakers configured (if they are 8 ohm or 4 ohm, if they have special connection for tweeters or they are just hooked up parallel to door speakers) ? Also, how do you take off door speaker covers without damaging them ?
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Hi Mike,

There are some good pics of the door trim removal process to gain access to the speakers here:

http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group...ase.yahoo.com/

Speakers specs can be found here (they're 4 ohm ones):Just cut and paste this link into a web browser.

http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/australian_x-trail/lst?.dir=/Khiem%27s+X-Trail+(KabalGuy)/Stereo+Install&.src=gr&.order=&.view=t&.done=http% 3a//briefcase.yahoo.com/

PLease note: This is for the Australian X-Trail set-up, so am not sure if your will have the same speaker specs. I would presume it would.

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Hi, this is my first time here. I just got an X-Trail (Silver AWD XE 5spd) and the stereo really sucks. Does anyone know how are the speakers configured (if they are 8 ohm or 4 ohm, if they have special connection for tweeters or they are just hooked up parallel to door speakers) ? Also, how do you take off door speaker covers without damaging them ?
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Old Dec 20th, 2004, 08:49 PM   #762 (permalink)
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Marketing VDC/Traction Control

We're planning to replace our '91 Pathfinder next summer, and the X-Trail has been at the top of our preference list. However, I have a major beef about how the X-Trail is marketed. I place high importance on having a traction control system, for crossing ditches at diagonal angles, and for climbing steep rough roads in snow and on ice.

Nissan allows you to specify traction control only on the X-Trail LE. So rather than it being an $800 option on an XE AWD, it's really a $6600 option because you're forced to buy an LE to get it. I don't even like leather seats!

Along comes the Hyundai Tucson, which, for $6000 less than an X-Trail LE, includes a traction control system standard on all models including the GL AWD model. On the downside, this Hyundai has less cargo room, and gets a little worse mileage than the X-Trail. But it comes with a better warranty (5/8 years vs 3/5 !), and has a V-6. Clearance appears to be about the same. The X-Trail has been well accepted in the marketplace, but the Tucson is also reaping awards.

As a consumer, I have regarded Nissan's bundling of All-Mode, and now VDC/traction control with their most expensive models as greedy, while from their point of view it probably was profitable and clever marketing. But now that the consumer has an alternative, it would be dumb of them to continue that practice, or they will lose sales (like mine).
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I just purchased my new sunlit sand x-trail LE and I can't locate my block heater plug! Anyone know where it is located?
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Old Dec 21st, 2004, 05:56 PM   #764 (permalink)
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I just purchased my new sunlit sand x-trail LE and I can't locate my block heater plug! Anyone know where it is located?

Look at the bottom of the bumper.
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Old Dec 22nd, 2004, 06:57 AM   #765 (permalink)
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Block Heater

Check near the rad.. there is is a wire for it.


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