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post #1 of 24 Old Aug 21st, 2006, 08:44 AM Thread Starter
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Unhappy 93 Altima cut-off and will not start

I was driving home about 2 days ago and my altima cut off on me all of a sudden. Many lights in the instrument cluster popped on at once including the check engine light, oil light, seat belt light, etc... At that moment I lost my power steering as well and the car completely shut off.

When we tried to restart it the car cranks but it will not catch (start). Yesterday I looked under the hood again to try and diagnose the problem. The fuel pump and fuel filter are good (It gets gas). The spark plugs are good and there is no oil in the distributor (it gets fire... Very good fire). We also tried testing the fuel pressure and that seemed to be decent. The security fuses were also checked and they were perfect.

After many headaches we went to see what codes popped up from the ECM and got 3 long pulses and 4 short ones indicating a knock sensor problem. We've removed the knock sensor and tested it's resitivity and the harness wiring continuity... Everything seems to be coming out fine.

Does anyone else have any suggestions to get my Altima back running again???
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By the way, the spark plugs are looking mighty fine as well...
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post #3 of 24 Old Aug 21st, 2006, 10:16 PM
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check your main fuses and your belts.

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check your main fuses and your belts.
We checked all fuses and they work. Which belts are we supposed to check (and how)?
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Do this. Remove the distributor car and rotor then the cover on the distributor itself. If there is any oil present there, then you have a bad distributor. Veyr common problem
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post #6 of 24 Old Aug 22nd, 2006, 03:58 PM
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The Same thing happened to my 1994 Altima last night. I let my roommate borrow my car and she said it stalled right before they got home, but she was able to start it up again and drive it the 100 yards to our house, but she said it was steaming. This morning I checked on it and there was no coolant in it at all. I filled it up, but it wouldn't start. The ECM gave me the code 34, knock sensor. It's sitting in my muddy driveway and I can't get to the knock sensor, but I checked the distributor and there is a small crack on the cap (I may have actually done this when I removed it, but it's) and the distributor is loose. I don't know if it's supposed to be like that but my intuition and friends who know more about cars than I do, both say it's not. And I didn't see any oil on or around the distributor.

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post #7 of 24 Old Aug 22nd, 2006, 09:17 PM
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Thumbs up how to check your distributer for oil

1... take the plug wires off the distributer cap

2... take th distributer cap off set to the side

3... take the rotor off

4... slide the protectant plate off be carefull there is a rubber ring gasket do not loose this the plate is as round as the distributer.

5... than behind that plate is a little disk looks like a cd but smaller it should be very clean and shiny if there is oil on it the distributer is bad dont try to clean it that will not solve the problem you must replace it to fix it

now that should solve all your problems just take your time and do it right the first time i had the same problems and have not had them since good luck
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We checked all fuses and they work. Which belts are we supposed to check (and how)?
alternator belt..make sure its working properly

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Well, I think the altnerator belt worked fine. We actually got it up and running today (yippee skippy). After $255 on an ignition coil, distributor, distributor cap, and rotor button, it appears as though the timing was off just a bit. This all started to make sense after logical thinking (bumpy ride shuts car off, won't allow restart, knock sensor alert is enabled [but knock sensor doesn't keep car from starting... only retards timing]) So, we adjusted the ignition timing by slowing rotating the new distributor opened the accelerator a bit and it started right up.

As far as matts question, on my new $140 distributor it gave me a guide to problems and a cracked and loose distributor were each symptoms for engine problems and starting issues. Unfortunately, if I were you, I would replace the cap, button, and distributor itself.
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1... take the plug wires off the distributer cap

2... take th distributer cap off set to the side

3... take the rotor off

4... slide the protectant plate off be carefull there is a rubber ring gasket do not loose this the plate is as round as the distributer.

5... than behind that plate is a little disk looks like a cd but smaller it should be very clean and shiny if there is oil on it the distributer is bad dont try to clean it that will not solve the problem you must replace it to fix it

now that should solve all your problems just take your time and do it right the first time i had the same problems and have not had them since good luck
Good write up..
for the two people having there car's stalling out, the first place to look is the distributor. Again, this is a very common problem with the Altimas.
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Thanks for the suggestions. I'll check take the whole distributor apart and check for oil and try and get a new one as soon as I can get a ride to a parts store which is unfortunately quite a ways from home.
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I also checked the spark plugs and they are sparking, not great, I need to replace them, but they were working.would that mean my distributor is working and it's a timing issue and if so how exactly do you change the timing? I looked around online and in the Haynes manual, but they all say I need special tools. Is this the case?

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I also checked the spark plugs and they are sparking, not great, I need to replace them, but they were working.would that mean my distributor is working and it's a timing issue and if so how exactly do you change the timing? I looked around online and in the Haynes manual, but they all say I need special tools. Is this the case?

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Just because your spark plugs wires are workinf doesn't mean the dist. is fine.
What happens, from what I read up on the distributor is , when the PVC valve gets clogged and the oil migrates through the seal on the distributor, cause it to fail. Like I mentioned before, dont' jump to conclucions. Inspect the dist. to determine if its bad and then let us know what you find.
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I'm not quite sure I did the right thing. I took off the cap, but I don't see how to get the rotor detached from the distributor. I can see what I'm assuming is the rubber ring gasket from step 4, but I don't see how to get at it.

So I took the whole thing out of the engine. There was oil on the part that came out, but I'm assuming there was supposed to be. The rubber ring there was in good condition and there was only oil on the engine side of it.

I checked the wrong thing though didn't I?

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I'm not quite sure I did the right thing. I took off the cap, but I don't see how to get the rotor detached from the distributor. I can see what I'm assuming is the rubber ring gasket from step 4, but I don't see how to get at it.

So I took the whole thing out of the engine. There was oil on the part that came out, but I'm assuming there was supposed to be. The rubber ring there was in good condition and there was only oil on the engine side of it.

I checked the wrong thing though didn't I?

thanks

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The rotor is attatch with a crossed recessed screw, you probably didn't see it, because its rotated under the rotor, feel around and your find the screw. Once you remove that, remove the plastic cover on the distributor, you'll see a encoder disk. Basically is a thin disk with a bunch of slots and a sensor. If you see any oil in there then the distributor is bad.
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