» Wheel & Tire Center

» Sponsors
» Sponsors
Go Back   Nissan Forums: Nissan Forum > Nissan Models > Truck & SUV
Register Home Forum Gallery eBay Marketplace Active Topics Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Truck & SUV Armada, Frontier, Murano, Pathfinder, Quest, Titan, X-Trail, Xterra

Please Visit our Site Sponsors

SolsticeForum.com is the largest Nissan Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old Jan 23rd, 2005, 02:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
DanaCat
Nissan Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Cypress, Texas
Posts: 117
Splitfire wireset for 89 2wd Nissan hardbody?

Does anyone think putting Splitfire spark plug wires on an 89 Nissan 2wd 2.4 L Z24 engine Hardbody would increase fuel mileage and performance over putting the Nissan wireset on? If it's a good idea, where would I find them for my truck? Also, if you recommend that, what spark plugs would I use with that?

Last edited by DanaCat : Jan 23rd, 2005 at 02:19 PM.
DanaCat is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 

Old Jan 23rd, 2005, 04:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
chacono
Nissan Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Fairfax, VA
Posts: 63
DanaCat. To hell with splitfire anything. Get NGK spark plugs and wire sets. Both are worth couple of extra $$.

// Omar

QUOTE=DanaCat]Does anyone think putting Splitfire spark plug wires on an 89 Nissan 2wd 2.4 L Z24 engine Hardbody would increase fuel mileage and performance over putting the Nissan wireset on? If it's a good idea, where would I find them for my truck? Also, if you recommend that, what spark plugs would I use with that?[/quote]
chacono is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 23rd, 2005, 04:54 PM   #3 (permalink)
DanaCat
Nissan Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Cypress, Texas
Posts: 117
Quote:
Originally Posted by chacono
DanaCat. To hell with splitfire anything. Get NGK spark plugs and wire sets. Both are worth couple of extra $$.

// Omar

QUOTE=DanaCat]Does anyone think putting Splitfire spark plug wires on an 89 Nissan 2wd 2.4 L Z24 engine Hardbody would increase fuel mileage and performance over putting the Nissan wireset on? If it's a good idea, where would I find them for my truck? Also, if you recommend that, what spark plugs would I use with that?
[/quote]
What are NGK plugs and wires? Are they nissan's OEM, or a brand I would find at an auto parts?
DanaCat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 23rd, 2005, 07:59 PM   #4 (permalink)
chacono
Nissan Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Fairfax, VA
Posts: 63
NGK is a brand. Check their web site http://www.ngksparkplugs.com/

Do a search for the brand on this site and you'll get more info.
chacono is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 23rd, 2005, 10:23 PM   #5 (permalink)
jemtec
Nissan Enthusiast
 
jemtec's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Post Falls
Posts: 26
jemtec

Dont bother with Splitfire plugs, but the wires are fantastic if you can find a Set for the Z24.
I had a Set in my 1992 Nissan KA24 engine, but I found a set that was the closest to OEM as I could find. They may make official ones now.(this was almost 10 years ago).
Dont know much about the NGK wires.. Like the Plugs ok.
There are alot of of companies out there that use decent materials in their plugs like Pallidium, Platinum etc etc..
They do last longer. But, I feel its best to stay away from Bosch Plugs because you cannot tell if the core of the Plug electrode (made of platinum) is excessively worn (at a glance) and you also cant tell if the core is physically damaged if you had a Pinging Scenario with bad gas at one time or another.
Now, with Bosch, same deal with wires.. The wires are great because they are Spiral wire core.
Fight for these kind of designs.
If its Carbon Aramid core, they have WAY too high resistance and are a big waste of money long term with poor performance from the moment they get out of the box all the way to their dismal end.
Autolite is a big one Im thinking of here. Bad stuff.
Remember that the MM sizes of wires largely mean nothing these days.
If its 7.5 MM or 8MM Or 8.5 MM, the quality of the CORE is what really matters. Shielding is secondary.
You actually need more shielding in crappy carbon core wires because of all the spark energy suppression going on from the huge resistance to coil energy flow which causes a big drop in voltage, and an increase in HEAT.. Just like the elements on a stove.
A low resistance wire will let way more power get to the plugs and power them correctly under no duress making even the most basic spark plug a "powerhouse".
Also remember that Sparkplugs work best if there is a "edge" on the center electrodes, and once they start rounding, you start loosing performance.
Electricity is lazy, and likes to travel a path of least resistance, and if it has a good sharp edge, electricity loves it. (Less resistance makes electricity very happy).
If you use a normal type sparkplug, 30K miles is a good replacement point.
Precious metal based, can go from 60-100K with little or no wear.
Thats why you hear of "100,000" mile tune ups in cars and trucks now, because they pretty much dont use plug wires, Dont have a Distributor, and use Direct fire Ignition to each plug individually using cam and crank sensors for correct timing, which is the best way to send power to a plug with the best force, but doesnt apply to many older vehicles made 6 years ago and later.
Ive heard of a company called "nology" that is supposed to make some rather fantastic capacitive discharge type wires (very low resistance) that pack one hell of a powerful spark. They "collect energy" and hold a bit of the charge from a prior spark, and then violently blast a "stronger" jolt using some of the remaining energy in the capacitor by adding it to the new "incoming" voltage. Very cool.
During shut down, the wires "bleed down" and wont "shock" the owner with that "charge" I was mentioning.
Spark energy fires so fast, that the time it takes for it to charge, its already discharging and charging again.
So if you you decide to remove a wire for some reason from a plug, its already discharged so you wont have chattering teeth and hands.
Not cheap, but really cool if you can afford a set.
Food for thought
jemtec is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 24th, 2005, 11:10 AM   #6 (permalink)
SPEEDO
Post Freak
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: PHX AZ
Posts: 1,265
for some reason Nissans do not get along with aftermarket ignition parts, (cap,rotor,wires,plugs). save yourself the headache and get the factory stuff
SPEEDO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 25th, 2005, 04:21 AM   #7 (permalink)
jemtec
Nissan Enthusiast
 
jemtec's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Post Falls
Posts: 26
jemtec

I had good luck with splitfire wires, but I never messed with using a different cap or rotor or anything along those lines at the time I had my truck, as they werent yet available.
I dont see a real reason to "Not" installing what the Industry calls "high dielectric strength" components that would make any difference to the way any ignition system works, other than you get less "internal crossfires" which can happen at higher RPM in a Conventional type cap and rotor for instance.. Also known as "spark walk", as well as increase longevity of the parts, due to the brass contacts frequently used.
I worked as an assistant manager for an autoparts store for 7 years and was good about both my training and my advice, and I had the habit of getting "input" from customers as well as other research about what I sell them before I did.
Electrically, its ok to do "improvements" to components if they are higher quality than factory but maintain OE design parameters.
I believe in using Spark enhancement systems, and its done all the time in the aftermarket.
However, for the sake of arguement, I agree with your statement only with the regard to installing high power coils.
Sometimes people dont know how to correctly wire components, and make mistakes that can do damage.
But for those who do know and are serious about improving power, then there is little if any risk if they have/are already modifying their engines, exhaust, weight loss, new tires/wheels, and any other modification that basically isnt clearly "factory", or "OE".
If they all felt as you do in entirety, there would be no aftermarket, thats full of safe, quality components that people use everyday to use the old cliche' "soup" your rig.
As I myself have "proven" that you can run Aftermarket components in my Own truck, I will say that moving to higher quality electrical is just fine.
And I will strongly emphasize better wires.
The factory mearly makes products that they feel are good enough "performance" of the wire sets they install in their vehicles.
(well, these days, most of the cars use an entirely different design scope using small, usually spiral wire core, direct fire, or semi direct fire (meaning has to go a distance through a wire) so believe me when I say, wires are going the way of the dinosaur, but there are plenty of good Nissans out there that can use higher quality parts.
Like shocks, and many other components made, there is frequently the use, of lower grade components that they feel will be covered under "general use" categories.. IE-"average joe". So, they know that maintanence will be "taken care of" more often than not to replace wires, plugs, cap and rotor, filters, ect ect..
If you want to maintain "OE" you can, But I also suggest at least going to a spiral wire core wireset, or dual core (such as splitfire or bosch), not because Im talking out of my arse, but because they really do make a difference and do not do what, from what I gather from your post as, "potential damage" to your Ignition system.
These days, even OE manufactures sell "hot stuff" that improves performance over stock!
So, again, I believe there is nothing wrong with using quality "OE" replacement parts that are designed with increased performance.
jemtec is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

  Nissan Forums: Nissan Forum > Nissan Models > Truck & SUV



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
SEMA show Spec V's and other Nissan GOODIES cjsmith11878 General Discussion 13 Jan 26th, 2005 10:51 AM
Selling my bagged 86.5 nissan hardbody Kam_05 Truck & SUV 1 Feb 28th, 2003 04:39 AM
A question? SR20DET engine swap into a 1991 Hardbody Nissan truck nameless6745 Truck & SUV 1 Jan 29th, 2003 11:30 AM
my nissan hardbody lownissan dj Member Rides 11 Nov 5th, 2002 10:27 PM
pics of my nissan hardbody lownissan dj Member Rides 4 Sep 18th, 2002 02:18 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:13 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.12
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.0.0
© 2006 NissanForums.Com