Hello everyone,
I am just new to this list & am quite happy I found it for sure.
I have a 95 xe v6 hardbody & a 95 xe v6 pathfinder. Owned a 91 nx 1600 before I got these 2 & many a datsun in the early years.
Nissan Rocks!
I have a question about a deal called the turbonator www.turbonator.com
Has anyone ever seen or used these? I would like to try one on my hardbody as it gets not so good mileage & if it works, I will put one on the pathfinder.
Anyone know any good or bad?
Also I have another question.
The pathfinder & the truck have the same v6 engine, & 5 speed tranny.
But the pathfinder will eat up the truck in all respects of power & mileage.
The pathfinder is totally original Whereas the truck has a K & N filter, Platinum 4 plugs, New wires,cap & rotor, New PCV valve, new timing belt, fuel filter,& catalytic converter removed. I can't really think of anything else to do to make it any better
Both have about the same mileage as well. About 144,000 miles.
Any ideas would be very much appreciated
Thanks
Alex
Last edited by talla : Nov 28th, 2004 at 03:18 AM.
I personally look on these types of things as intake restrictions.
As such, I wouldnt ever knowingly install an intake airflow restictor in any vehicle I own.
Its up to you, but in my experience (30+ years as a Motor Mechanic here in Australia) Ive never seen any of these type of things work.
Have a great day.
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1988 WD21 Pathfinder's with supercharged 3.8Litre V6 Power RULE!
NOOOOOOO not the turbonator!!!!
i cant find it, but there is a post about the pysics, and maths, and logical sence on this item
im sure sombody know what one i am talking about
it was in relation to an ebay one exactly the same
Save your cash Max! If it sounds too good to be true then... Do you actually believe that a $70 gadget will actually increase your HP and gas mileage? This things have been tested and retested and have always come far short than the claims of the manufacturer. Notice that the advertisement states UP to 35HP and 31% MPG increase which maybe true but under strict lab conditions and not necessarily actual day to day driving.
With those $70 you can buy good quality oil, filters, plugs, wires, better gas, etc which are proven to increase HP and MPG.
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NOOOOOOO not the turbonator!!!!
i cant find it, but there is a post about the pysics, and maths, and logical sence on this item
im sure sombody know what one i am talking about
it was in relation to an ebay one exactly the same
hey man ever heard of the tornado air? it is the same thing and if you want to waste $70 dollars for 1 hp (if lucky) and 1 extra MPG (if lucky) My father bought one for me and I dynoed my frontier and there is no change but maybe 1-2 hp but only in the early rpm range and I get 23.89 MPG city and with the Tornado air / turbonator I got 23.91! so not worth you money. Save it up and buy and Volant air box or cold air intake
hey man ever heard of the tornado air? it is the same thing and if you want to waste $70 dollars for 1 hp (if lucky) and 1 extra MPG (if lucky) My father bought one for me and I dynoed my frontier and there is no change but maybe 1-2 hp but only in the early rpm range and I get 23.89 MPG city and with the Tornado air / turbonator I got 23.91! so not worth you money. Save it up and buy and Volant air box or cold air intake
The pathfinder & the truck have the same v6 engine, & 5 speed tranny.
But the pathfinder will eat up the truck in all respects of power & mileage.
The pathfinder is totally original Whereas the truck has a K & N filter, Platinum 4 plugs, New wires,cap & rotor, New PCV valve, new timing belt, fuel filter,& catalytic converter removed. I can't really think of anything else to do to make it any better
Both have about the same mileage as well. About 144,000 miles.
Any ideas would be very much appreciated
Thanks
Alex
Alex, I think that's the ticket right there. The truck has so much junk on it (Bosch plugs, K&N filter) that you never know what's causing the problem. Put a real paper filter back on it, and replace the plugs with NGKs. That will at least get you back to stock, so you can start looking for the real problem, if there is one.
Alex, I think that's the ticket right there. The truck has so much junk on it (Bosch plugs, K&N filter) that you never know what's causing the problem. Put a real paper filter back on it, and replace the plugs with NGKs. That will at least get you back to stock, so you can start looking for the real problem, if there is one.
So much junk? Other than quality maintenance, talla has used two aftermarket items. Both items increased power and economy in every vehicle I have used them in and my list grows long. If auto manufacturers weren't so cheap, we would all have been driving cars factory equipped with cotton gauze filters and higher quality plugs. In fact, GM has went to the higher qual plugs to increase mileage between tuneups. It will only be a matter of time til the paper disposable filters are a thing of the past. I am sure it will be marketed as a way to reduce waste generated in the life of the car. If you would research, you would find that a/c, overdrive, aluminum wheels, tachometers, window tint, headlights, gas shock absorbers, and graphite bushings were all aftermarket items at one time. All items listed came stock on my 02 Intrigue. Auto manufacturers rarely come up with an idea of thier own. It's expensive.
As for the turbonator, I concur. Intake restrictions have no use unless they happen to be the lobes of a blower or the blades of a turbo.
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95 2WD Nissan PU E
2002 Oldsmobile Intrigue GX
"The hard part about playing chicken is knowing when to flinch" Scott Glenn in The Hunt for Red October
So much junk? Other than quality maintenance, talla has used two aftermarket items. Both items increased power and economy in every vehicle I have used them in and my list grows long. If auto manufacturers weren't so cheap, we would all have been driving cars factory equipped with cotton gauze filters and higher quality plugs. In fact, GM has went to the higher qual plugs to increase mileage between tuneups.
The use of platinum plugs is one thing. Indeed, my '97 Seville with over 140,000 miles now is still on the original AC-Delco double-platinums. But we've had this discussion over and over and over again here. Some equipment runs good with Bosch plugs, some don't. Most have agreed that the +4 plugs aren't the best, and if you do anything, to stick with regular Bosch Platinums. I tried 'em and as you know, they caused some driveability problems and I took 'em back out. In most cases, a paper filter flows just as well as a cotton-gauze filter, and in many cases, cotton gauze filters create problems of their own. I've tried enough myself to know that. You have good experience with them, and I haven't.
I like to use a metaphor of medicine in humans is just like mods with cars. Everything will affect each specimen differently, be it a vehicle or a human. If you have weird side effects from medicine, you really have to wait until the medicine is OUT of your body to address them. Usually, it's the medicine that is causing the side effect. You have to, in effect, go back to the baseline before you can address any problems. Same deal with engines and mods like this. In general, I'd say that half the people here like aftermarket plugs, and half say stick with NGK. So who's to say that in this particular case, the plugs aren't the problem? I can remember a post from a few months ago where the person was trying to address major driveability problems (hesitation, stalling, poor economy) and the problem was the new Bosch plugs he put in. NGK put the truck back to normal.
My point with the analogy and original suggestion is to get the truck back to the baseline (stock) before trying to address the problems. If the plugs are causing the problem, there's no point in trying to solve it with the plugs still in there. I only costs about 20 bucks to buy a new set of plugs and a paper filter, and that might save you hundreds of dollars and hours of labor in going here and there replacing parts and filters when the mods were the culprit in the beginning. Again, I'm not saying the mods are the problem. The point is, there's no way to know. Their track record here seems to be about 50%/50%. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't. It'd be a shame to spend a lot of time trying to solve a problem that was only caused by aftermarket stuff.
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If you would research, you would find that a/c, overdrive, aluminum wheels, tachometers, window tint, headlights, gas shock absorbers, and graphite bushings were all aftermarket items at one time. All items listed came stock on my 02 Intrigue.
The difference here is that Oldsmobile designed those features into the car, and they integrate together. The same cannot be said for people installing aftermarket intakes and the like...and then sometimes getting driveability problems, fouled MAFs, etc.
[Thanks everyone,
I figured the "turbonator" was a gimmick, but who knows for sure until you ask, right? :
Glad I did.
I think that I will try the oem spark plugs though. Looks like the cheapest place to start.
When I got the truck it seemed underpowered though, (Hence the aftermarket parts)
Does anyone know iif the pathfinder has more HP anyway?
I mean this thing will kill my truck in low end, high end, midrange, economy.
Same motor & 5 speed. What Gives?
Thanks for all the replies
Alex
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95 2WD Nissan PU E
2002 Oldsmobile Intrigue GX
"The hard part about playing chicken is knowing when to flinch" Scott Glenn in The Hunt for Red October
cleaning your fuel system, getting a high quality air filter, changing spark plugs to possibly irridium (if your spark plugs are older), and going synthetic (if your car does not have too many miles on it) is always a good start for better mileage
That was my first impression, but it is better in all areas . Low end & top end as well. Would'nt gearing give an advantage in one area over another? ie: low gears good bottom end, high gears good top end?
I think that is right but I don't know for sure.
Thanks
Alex
cleaning your fuel system, getting a high quality air filter, changing spark plugs to possibly irridium (if your spark plugs are older), and going synthetic (if your car does not have too many miles on it) is always a good start for better mileage
I have a K & N filter, bosch +4 plugs, Have used injector cleaner, & use Mobil 1 synthetic oil in it.
Is there a good (reccomended) injector cleaner out there that maybe I should try?
Thanks
Alex
I really appreciate all the ideas out there BTW
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