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post #1 of 23 Old Nov 8th, 2004, 10:11 PM Thread Starter
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97 Pathfinder Swaying Problem

I have an 100K + 97 Pathfinder LE and have had the classic swaying problem for some time now. I have read about how to fix the problem from previous forums, but wanted to get a certain answer on how to fix the problem.

1) Do I need to replace both the control arms as well as the bushings or would replacing just the bushings work?
2) Would my brake and suspension mechanic be able to put in new bushings?
3) Do I need to order the parts myself or will my mechanic be able to?

Muchas gracias to whoever can help me out. The swaying is pretty intense sometimes.
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1) Do I need to replace both the control arms as well as the bushings or would replacing just the bushings work?
Just replacing the eight bushings will take care of the problem. Some people replace only the lower 4, but my experience has been that the upper 4 are in tough shape as well.

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2) Would my brake and suspension mechanic be able to put in new bushings?
This is really your call, but I think the answer is yes. The bolts and or nuts can be tough to get out. Sometimes you just have to cut them out so you might need a new bolt and or nut or two. Then you have to remove the bushing which is pressed in. They will likely have a press for this, but they have to be careful so as not to bend the control arm because it does take a lot of force to get the old bushings out.

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3) Do I need to order the parts myself or will my mechanic be able to?
I recommend buying the poly bushings from www.4x4parts.com over the Nissan OEM bushings. I've used both. The poly bushings are working well and are a lot easier to install and will definitely be a lot easier to remove.
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[QUOTE=ChloDog]I have an 100K + 97 Pathfinder LE and have had the classic swaying problem for some time now. I have read about how to fix the problem from previous forums, but wanted to get a certain answer on how to fix the problem.

1) Do I need to replace both the control arms as well as the bushings or would replacing just the bushings work?
2) Would my brake and suspension mechanic be able to put in new bushings?
3) Do I need to order the parts myself or will my mechanic be able to?

When my mechanic checked into it he found that the local Nissan dealer only had the upper bushings and the lower ones came as a unit...arm and bushing...I went with getting the new bushings only from 4x4parts.com... per 96R50 and was very pleased...the mechanic thought the new bushings were better than the factory ones also...

The place that did mine was a little surprised at first that I already had the bushings and thought it was the problem just from talking to the guys on this site...but after he got into it... he found every one of the 8 bushings were very bad...also said he was glad they had a good press because the old bushings were very tight to press out... the bolts were tight too...Good luck!!
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I have an 100K + 97 Pathfinder LE and have had the classic swaying problem for some time now. I have read about how to fix the problem from previous forums, but wanted to get a certain answer on how to fix the problem.

1) Do I need to replace both the control arms as well as the bushings or would replacing just the bushings work?
2) Would my brake and suspension mechanic be able to put in new bushings?
3) Do I need to order the parts myself or will my mechanic be able to?

When my mechanic checked into it he found that the local Nissan dealer only had the upper bushings and the lower ones came as a unit...arm and bushing...I went with getting the new bushings only from 4x4parts.com... per 96R50 and was very pleased...the mechanic thought the new bushings were better than the factory ones also...

The place that did mine was a little surprised at first that I already had the bushings and thought it was the problem just from talking to the guys on this site...but after he got into it... he found every one of the 8 bushings were very bad...also said he was glad they had a good press because the old bushings were very tight to press out... the bolts were tight too...Good luck!!

I went into 4x4parts.com and can't seem to figure out the part that I need. Can somebody link directly to the product or give me the exact name of what I am looking for? Also, do I need to buy 1 or should I be buying 8 of them?

How much would a mechanic charge to put them in?
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CALL the people at 4x4parts. Or, call any distributor of Energy Suspension bushings, cause that's what they'll sell you. 4x4Parts is simply a reseller.

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I went into 4x4parts.com and can't seem to figure out the part that I need. Can somebody link directly to the product or give me the exact name of what I am looking for? Also, do I need to buy 1 or should I be buying 8 of them?
http://www.4x4parts.com/public_html/...3aff726eff348f

As advertised you need to buy 4 sets @ $32.50 per set.
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I took the car to my mechanic and they had to order parts from the dealer. This is what they came up with:
2 rear bushings ($24.90)
2 rod assembly ($93.82)
4 washers ($17.88)
4 bushing stabilizers ($28.64)
2 hex nuts ($3.94)

When I saw this I was worried because I didn't know if I needed all of this and there were only 2 bushing purchased. I haven't had the work done yet, so I was wondering if I should purchase 4 sets from 4x4 parts and return the rest of the parts?
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Also, should I tell my mechanic that I just want to replace the bushings. Or could they have been correct in having those rod kits ordered?
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Also, should I tell my mechanic that I just want to replace the bushings. Or could they have been correct in having those rod kits ordered?
I've had my mechanic look at this twice and he says bushings are ok but everything points to it. i bought the truck used at 105k miles so i gotta assume the bushings weren't done or haven't been done in a while. what should i look for other than the dreaded shimmy? i can twist the lower rod only very slightly.

are the nissan bushings cheaper?
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Also, should I tell my mechanic that I just want to replace the bushings. Or could they have been correct in having those rod kits ordered?
They ordered the entire setup for you instead of just the bushings. I highly doubt there's anything wrong with the steel parts. It's the rubber that's worn out, why replace everything under there when only the $29 rubber bushings need to be replaced?

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They ordered the entire setup for you instead of just the bushings. I highly doubt there's anything wrong with the steel parts. It's the rubber that's worn out, why replace everything under there when only the $29 rubber bushings need to be replaced?

That is what I found also...when my mechanic called the dealer for the bushings...the lower bushings only come as an assembly...arm with both bushings...$90 each...the upper bushings were around $25 each but did come just the bushings...but you need 2 for each arm so that is $50 per arm which is $100 for the upper ...and $180 for the 2 lower ones...$280 for parts...from the dealer....and the mechanic still has to press out 4 old bushings and press in the new 4 bushings to the upper arms....while the lower arms will now just bolt on.

If you go with the 4 sets (pairs) of bushings from 4x4 parts.com...at $32.50 each...(they call them trailing arm bushings...and the same ones fit both upper and lower) thats $130 and your mechanic has to press out / in all 8 bushings....

The other points I found is ...its hard to see how bad the bushings are till the arms are off...and the dealer bushings are just the black rubber ones which are straight sleeve (cylinder) shaped bushings...the 4x4 bushings are blue poly which seem a little stronger material and are spool shaped...meaning there is a flange shape at each end that will make them fit more snug...and yes.. they will still press in ok...something I first wondered about.

Good luck guys....you will be glad when you get it done.
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They also sell "Lower Control Arm Front Bushings" and "Lower Control Arm Rear Bushings." What's the difference between these and the "Trailing Arm Bushings?"
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They're the same thing.

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My dealer in Eau Claire WI had no problem getting all 8 bushings for my 96 Pathfinder and I replaced them myself by pressing out the old and in the new bushings which completely solved my sway issue.

You need to either purchase a guide for pressing the bushings in or make one to keep them straight so you don't bend the outer sleeve on the rubber bushing and you need some sort of holder for the bars to keep them from twisting.
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you just need the rear 4 sets of bushings for the trailing are bushings as they are called by 4x4parts.com...in the Haynes Manual it depends one which pic you look at....they are called control arms in one and trailing arms in another. Its the rear axle that is moving around and starts the truck swaying from side to side...once you get it tight again....problem solved.
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