There is some great information on this thread for someone who is looking at a new Titan.
A question for Dagger and Patti, as well as other Titan owners. I am planning on buying a new truck then end of this month. I currently drive a 00 Chevy Silverado, and that experience alone rules a new Silverado out as an option. Dodge Rams are decent, but mpg and torque from the Hemi rules that one out. I had my eyes set on an 04 F-150, drove 6 or 7 different ones, narrowed the pick down to a couple FX4 packages, and was just waiting until I found the right color and deal. Then I stopped by the Nissan dealer and drove a Titan, just to make sure I had looked into all options. So much for the Ford. I really want a Titan now. I'm working on a black LE crew cab with the off-road package. The dealer says they'll beat the price I had on the F-150 FX4 SuperCrew.
My question is this: Do either of you (Dagger, especially, since you mentioned you were looking at a new F-150 at one point) have any reservations about buying the Titan insead of an F-150 or your next best option?
I have read all your posts about quality issues. From what I gather from other sites and magazine articles, the new F-150 has a few of its own as well (as in the electronics loading the engine with so much fuel that it eventually stalls on steep, 4Lo crawling decents -- 4Wheeler Magazine)
iI am in the same position as mountainar15. Only this will be my first pickup. I am getting rid of a quite reliable yukon denali. I drove this thing and it's a gotta have. I have been burned on the IPO situation before but this has such great reviews! does any one have any info for the 2005 models?
thanks
bob
mountainar15 and bob - same thing happened to me. I've had nothing but Ford trucks and really liked the FX4 F-150 until I drove the Titan. That said and with 2 months of ownership under my seat I have to say I'm a bit ambivalent. The number of problems/defficiencies with the Titan can still get to me some days and I question my purchase. But then at a more macro view I still really like this truck's ride, handling, engine performance, looks. I kind of wished I would have not been able to buy a new truck until this fall/next model year (of which I have not seen/heard anything about any differences). Perhaps if I had vetteldy's Titan I might have a different perspective today. Then again if I were to sell my Titan and go buy a F-150, I would enjoy some areas that I think are done better, but would always yearn for the performance and looks of the Titan.
Here's an interesting scenario. I fsomeone just had to have a Titan NOW and gave me cash for mine - what would I buy.......? I actually think I would go with another Titan - same color and options (but with a more thorough testing/evaluation of the vehicle).
OK, I'm hooked,
dagger
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yeah you'll find that these few complaints on here really represent the minority.. I know 3 people that have bought titan's (outside of this message board) and they have not had a single problem with theirs and one guy already has close to 10k on his! and they are all different models (king cab 4x4 offroad, king cab 2wd, crewcab 2wd) so just make sure you drive a few different titans and evaluate them heavily and try to pick some of the newer ones on the lot(last to roll off the line) and you'll probably be fine and quite happy. the new fords are nice but just way to damn porky... no reason a truck with 300 hp should be that slow!
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"...God made men the way they are because we desperately need them to be the way they are. Yes, a man is a dangerous thing, but so is a scalpel. You don't make it safe by making it dull, but instead you put it in the hands of someone who knows what he's doing." - John Eldridge
The dealership has offered me an LE for a blanket 2K off MSRP. Told me that would be the deal however I went(2k off). They intimated a certain trade in allowance on my yukon and missed it by 2k! I will have no trouble selling the denali for more. I am gonna do it.!! Has anyone gotten the extended warranty and How much? They hve said 1150 for a wrap around five year 75K deal. Any suggestions?
thanks
bob
Last edited by bsdds : Apr 25th, 2004 at 08:35 AM.
I'd work on the warranty a little more... on my frontier I got a 6 year 100,000 mile platinum warranty and gap insurance all through nissan for 1200 on my frontier and they probably still made money on it! the best way to buy a warranty is to keep denying it but seem a little unsure so they will keep trying to persuade you and don't say yes untill they give you the best warranty for around a 1000 bucks!
Later,
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Black Knight - 2004 Crew Cab XE-V6 4x4
"...God made men the way they are because we desperately need them to be the way they are. Yes, a man is a dangerous thing, but so is a scalpel. You don't make it safe by making it dull, but instead you put it in the hands of someone who knows what he's doing." - John Eldridge
I haven't seen anything about the Titan's noisy interior. I am looking at a crewcab 4X4 F150 Lariat & Titan LE. I like the Titan but find it uncomfortably noisy in the cab. I think it is both the exhaust and engine. A salesman said he thought they could put the pipe and muffler from an Armada in because they are pretty much the same and quieter, but at the price it shouldn't be necessary. Any advice, I'm planning to buy very soon.
I've read a few reports saying that the f150 cabin is quieter than the titan. the titan's i've driven are a little louder but it was all exhaust noise (which sounded pretty cool I though) but once i would get up on the highway the engine would settle down and it got pretty quiet. I have noticed a big difference in wind noise if you get it w/o the towing mirrors which stick out like huge brick walls from the doors! oh well it's all up to personal taste. I'd choose a more nimble, faster, more reliable truck with a better warranty than one with a prettier quieter interior that is much slower and is a ford! just my 2 cents
Later,
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Black Knight - 2004 Crew Cab XE-V6 4x4
"...God made men the way they are because we desperately need them to be the way they are. Yes, a man is a dangerous thing, but so is a scalpel. You don't make it safe by making it dull, but instead you put it in the hands of someone who knows what he's doing." - John Eldridge
Both the F-150 and Titan were quiet. I'd maybe give the nod to the Ford, and much of that is due to the throaty exhaust sound of the Titan. As black knight mentioned, at highway cruise it gets very quiet. However, b-k I don't think you nor anyone can substantiate the statement that the Titan is a "more reliable truck" - it is Nissan's first year in building this class of truck. Better warranty??? both have 3 years bumper to bumper. I haven't seen slalom comparison tests and I'd like to (anybody have any data?), but irregardless the Titan, to me, had a smoother overall driving experience.
YMMV,
dagger
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well I meant that it comes from a more reliable car line... and the titan will probably prove to be more reliable in the long run just like the nissan frontiers are much more reliable than the rangers! I know you've had an extreme case with the titan and I sympathize for ya but then again i'm a little jealous cuz you still have a titan even though it's got some small bugs (except for the power seat and vibration) I've just heard so many stories of fords dropping trannies and breaking down a weekend after they are bought (which goes more to a build quality standpoint). A friend of the family is on his 3rd expedition and everyone has had nothing but problems (he buys fords just because his sister works in the finance department and gets them a FAT discount!). I bet you'll be hard pressed to find a titan with engine problems or dropping tranny's like you hear with dodges and fords. But that's what I really meant. sorry for rambling!
Later,
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Black Knight - 2004 Crew Cab XE-V6 4x4
"...God made men the way they are because we desperately need them to be the way they are. Yes, a man is a dangerous thing, but so is a scalpel. You don't make it safe by making it dull, but instead you put it in the hands of someone who knows what he's doing." - John Eldridge
Yeah, I'm not sure about Ford's much anymore either. My dad has a 99' Ford E-250 work van that had the engine replaced at 29,000 miles. Also my girlfriend's dad has a 99' F-150 that had to get the tranny replaced only 2 months after he bought it brand new. Maybe 99' was just a bad year, but I doubt it.
I think on any auto forum, most of what you hear is biased bad anyway because that's where people come to vent their problems. Half to three quarters of what we read here are problems with our Nissan trucks. But just as most people don't have any problems with their Nissans, most people don't have any problems with any other brand, foreign, domestic, extraterrestrial, anything. I mean, face it, if any one brand was so poor that "they're all lemons", nobody would buy them and they'd be out of business! A few here have had bad experiences with Fords and GMs (and some Chryslers). And I'm sure a few here have had nothing but good experiences with them (jadcock raises his hand). The guy in the office next to me, with over 400,000 miles on his '85 Chevy truck with the original engine/tranny (rebuilt tranny once) laughs at me and my "high miles" Nissan truck. My 130k Cadillac Seville still runs high 14 quarter miles, bone stock, just like the day it was new. No engine problems, no tranny problems. I'd buy another one again in a heartbeat. I bet that by the numbers (meaning %satisfied to %dissatisfied), all auto makes are going to be about the same (because again, if one company produced nothing but bad product, it simply wouldn't exist).
I use the example all the time about my brother-in-law's '96 200sx that he got rid of because he couldn't trust it anymore. It kept dieing on him, the speedo kept breaking, the alternator needed replacing often, etc. And it only had 55k miles on it. He's not got a Honda and he's much happier (but we'll see how it lasts).
Again, I stand by my statement that your local dealership has a LOT to do with your experiences with a vehicle. Personally, I'd ask around A LOT before I ever bought a new Nissan because from experiences on this board, most Nissan dealers are borderline criminals. Again, I recognize that most here are naturally reporting problems rather than good things (few come here to brag), but Nissan's dealer reputation (on this board alone) is enough to make me think twice about it.
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