Well everyone, just as I suspected Nissan was sand bagging a little with their 305hp claims. I took my Truck to a Dyno Shop this morning in north Atlanta to have it tested. The guy did 6 pulls even though I was supposed to only get 3 because he couldn't believe his eyes. This thing ripped out a 256.1 hp and 300 lb.ft. of torque to the rear wheels!!!
The highest hp that was recorded was 258 but the torque on that pull was "only" 298. So he gave me the print out for the pull where the torque reached 300. He was amazed as I was. He said the highest reading he's seen from the Hemi's was 254 hp and 276 lb.ft. of torque.
Just click on the link I've attached below and go to the second page under the Titan pics. The graph is not the best quality but I'll replace it later on tonight when I get home and scan the print out he gave me. You'll notice a slight miss in the bar graph because his coil pick-up kept flickering in and out. Otherwise enjoy and I'll post pics of the truck on the dyno later on tonight as well. Comments are welcome!!
Oh yeah, and one more thing, by his calculations the engine is putting out close to 350hp at the crank using a 26% drive train loss factor!!! WoooHooooo
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Dale
03 Lincoln Aviator - 11200 miles
04 Nissan Titan - 9200 miles
I agree with the 325 estimate, but that's about all we can do until someone actually dyno's the engine only. And no it will not be me On the other hand rear wheel horsepower is apples to apples. I'm not going to post these results on any Dodge site but I'm sure someone will, and when that happens they are going to realize that either they are getting screwed with a very inefficient drive train or Dodge was way too optimistic with its claim on the Hemi HP. Either way I'm glad I bought a Nissan!!!
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Dale
03 Lincoln Aviator - 11200 miles
04 Nissan Titan - 9200 miles
On the other hand rear wheel horsepower is apples to apples.
Well, maybe. The driveline efficiency on your Nissan and on a Dodge Ram won't be the same. In fact, I'm sure the Nissan has a better driveline efficiency than a Ram does...meaning you can't really slap a generic number like "26%" on to get crank power. You are right in that the only real way to tell is dynoing the engine itself and not being conservative on the results (not to mention any names, NISSAN). Or for an interesting project, put the 5.6 Endurance engine in place of the Dodge Hemi and compare RWHP of the Ram with the Hemi engine and the Endurance engine. THAT would be apples to apples!
Apples/apples PoTAto/potaTO, the real juice here is that a 04 Nisan Titan (my next truck) makes 256HP at the rear wheels? And someone who already ponied up the dough has already dyno thrashed one? Car and Driver already ranked it over the Chevy/Ford/Toyota/and Dodge. Can this get any better?
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Aaron Ford
95 2WD Nissan PU E
2002 Oldsmobile Intrigue GX
"The hard part about playing chicken is knowing when to flinch" Scott Glenn in The Hunt for Red October
Yeah...you can go drive one off the showroom floor and flat out-run the so heavily marketed and probably over-hyped Dog Hemi at EVERY SINGLE STOPLIGHT!
Let me add one more thing that is interesting. I've read on several Dodge sites that the comparison of the Dodge Hemi and the Titan would be more equal if the Dodge had 18" wheels like the Titans rather than the 20's it runs. Well in reality the Titan's 18's are TALLER than the Dodges 20's due to tire size used. The 18"s that are on the Titan are 32.6" tall compared to 31.9" total height for the Dodge 20" tires. So the Hemi boys already have an advantage that they obviously don't know about. I just love the excuses I've read so far. It cracks me up....
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Dale
03 Lincoln Aviator - 11200 miles
04 Nissan Titan - 9200 miles
This is kinda like walking into a bar and watching your accountant and your lawyer beating the s**t out of each other. Somebody pinch me.
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Aaron Ford
95 2WD Nissan PU E
2002 Oldsmobile Intrigue GX
"The hard part about playing chicken is knowing when to flinch" Scott Glenn in The Hunt for Red October
This is kinda like walking into a bar and watching your accountant and your lawyer beating the s**t out of each other. Somebody pinch me.
Heh. I suggested the new Nissan Titan to a guy at work who is looking into buying a new truck. He said, "I ain't driving no rice burner!" This discussion followed the one where he described having to have the rear axle replaced in his '02 F-150 because of a "factory defect". Whatever...
Furd better hope that his attitude prevails - or they're really going to be in trouble. Nissan is poised to really hurt the "big three" in their last remaining successful market segment - the big truck and SUV!
Heath
__________________ 1997 Nissan XE Truck - 133,000 Miles
1990 Infiniti Q45 - 91,000 Miles
2005 Infiniti G35 Sedan - 34,000 Miles
I've been recommending the titan to all my friends because I know that Nissan has really upped the ante on this one. I have always wanted a 350Z and I still love that car, but I live in IN so it's not very practical (since we're getting hit with a snow storm right now) so I'm thinking of getting a Titan and tricking it out. Talk about a mean truck, . I used to have a dodge with a 318 but after my Spec V I would never go back to "american muscle", just give me the keys to a new titan any day.
Hey Jet,
I love your truck man. I can't wait til I can get one! 2 more years on my spec v lease and then it's Titan time. That engine is so mean, I can't wait. Congrats on the new truck!
Fletch
Nice Numbers man. Hmmmm that V8 looks like it would fit in my Frontier 
. I used to have a dodge with a 318 but after my Spec V I would never go back to "american muscle", just give me the keys to a new titan any day.
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