B13 front shocks vs B14 front shocks

eric96ser · Nov 4th, 2002, 01:08 PM

I'm replacing my struts, so I bought B13 front AGXs. I have B14 fronts on now. Looking at the 2 side by side, there is some difference, but not a lot. I broke the tape measure out, and took pictures.

Side by side:

B14 from the top washer to the bottom:

B13 from the same points:

B13 from the bottom of the spring perch

B14 the same:

So the B13 struts are not as different from the B14s as people say. You gain a 1/2" of suspension travel with B13. Not alot, but more than before. Its a good thing they are the same price.

G_Funk013 · Nov 4th, 2002, 02:12 PM

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Originally posted by eric96ser
So the B13 struts are not as different from the B14s as people say. You gain a 1/2" of suspension travel with B13. Not alot, but more than before. Its a good thing they are the same price.

So, what does that mean?

sethwas · Nov 4th, 2002, 02:28 PM

It means,
That you can use B13 front struts when you use springs that lower your b14. So if you get springs that lower your car 1.4", you lose 1.4" of travel. However if you use B13 struts, you get .5" of travel back or the car only loses .9" of travel. So in essense you get a dropped 'look' but you haven't dropped your car that much. Its like always having another person in the car, without the weight.

Seth

PatScottAKA99XE · Nov 5th, 2002, 08:59 PM

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Originally posted by sethwas
It means,
That you can use B13 front struts when you use springs that lower your b14. So if you get springs that lower your car 1.4", you lose 1.4" of travel. However if you use B13 struts, you get .5" of travel back or the car only loses .9" of travel. So in essense you get a dropped 'look' but you haven't dropped your car that much. Its like always having another person in the car, without the weight.

Seth

Using the B13 struts is useless with lowering springs, It only does the "trick" when you use coilovers.

G_Funk013 · Nov 5th, 2002, 09:16 PM

Thanks for the explanation Seth

sethwas · Nov 5th, 2002, 10:32 PM

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Originally posted by PatScottAKA99XE
Using the B13 struts is useless with lowering springs, It only does the "trick" when you use coilovers.

Hey,
Just curious, in this sentance how are you defining 'lowering springs' and 'coilovers'.?

Seth

P.S. It was my understanding that, for example, with Eibach Pro-Kits, there is more suspension travel on the B13 front AGX strut than the B14 front AGX strut.

eric96ser · Nov 6th, 2002, 12:24 PM

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Originally posted by sethwas
Hey,
Just curious, in this sentance how are you defining 'lowering springs' and 'coilovers'.?

Seth

P.S. It was my understanding that, for example, with Eibach Pro-Kits, there is more suspension travel on the B13 front AGX strut than the B14 front AGX strut.

The perch on the B13 strut is lower by less than 1/4" compared to the B14 strut. You may gain 1/4" of travel, that's it. With coilovers, it doesn't matter where the stock lower perch is, its not really used.

PatScottAKA99XE · Nov 6th, 2002, 04:36 PM

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Originally posted by sethwas
Hey,
Just curious, in this sentance how are you defining 'lowering springs' and 'coilovers'.?

Seth

P.S. It was my understanding that, for example, with Eibach Pro-Kits, there is more suspension travel on the B13 front AGX strut than the B14 front AGX strut.

Ahh yes, this has come up before. Well technicly the stock suspension is coilover, as in coil-over-spring. I use the term to describe a damper(shock or strut) with a threaded body or slip-on sleave that allows a threaded collar to act as the lower spring perch. since its threaded you can adjust the perch to any height which also adjust your ride height. There is more to it, but that should give you the idea.

eric96ser, gave a good explination of the travel "trick". Do a search, I made a little diagram of the "trick"

sethwas · Nov 6th, 2002, 04:47 PM

Hey,
Sorry, I know what a coilover is, and lowering springs, I just meant since people misuse the terms often, I wanted to be sure which 'version' of the terms he meant.

Seth

shmuck90 · Nov 8th, 2002, 04:14 AM

so should i might as well get b14 front shocks if i have a 2 inch drop, damn im gonna bottom out a lot, isnt there anything i can do to reduce it?

dante81_98 · Nov 11th, 2002, 12:07 AM

the only thing you can do is call motivational eng. and get some lowerd struts. they are expensive but from what i have heard they are worth it. not to mention that he told me that with the 2 in drop springs, his struts, bumpstops, and his mounts you would actually have a nice ride.

i sure hope he is right but i will trust him on that one, he has put alot of research into them.

good luck and let me know how it comes out
laterz
chad

motivational1 · Nov 11th, 2002, 10:42 AM

The pic with the AGX's at the top of the page shows a measurement a little over 13.5 inches. Motivational struts are 11.5 inches. This is where you will be getting the better ride from.

Geo · Nov 11th, 2002, 02:46 PM

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Originally posted by motivational1
The pic with the AGX's at the top of the page shows a measurement a little over 13.5 inches. Motivational struts are 11.5 inches. This is where you will be getting the better ride from.

That and the fact that IMHO Koni makes better dampers.

shmuck90 · Nov 11th, 2002, 03:13 PM

Konis adjustable shocks are better than KYBs, how come everybody is buying the KYB ones? maybe cheaper

El_Presidente · Dec 18th, 2002, 01:17 PM

so what would happen if you got the b13 front struts and you used lowering springs. what would the effect be?