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Old Nov 18th, 2004, 10:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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ok, still on my project to tighten up the ride

So now I have it down to Teins without the adjustable dampers on 14" or 15" rims that give lots of sidewall. That's for a good ride. However the bushings in the system are 7 years old and have been through many a winter so I'm wondering if they should be replaced. If so, should they be you're a thane, aftermarket, OEM, or a combination. I want stiff where it should be stiff, yet forgiving so that the car doesn't rattle itself apart.
Where should I strategically put which kind of bushing for the most taught ride that isn't 'racecar' stiff?

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Old Nov 18th, 2004, 12:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I have heard that the energysuspension urethane bushings don't affect the ride enough to care. Besides with that much side wall it shouldn't be much concern.
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Old Nov 28th, 2004, 10:56 AM   #3 (permalink)
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OK,
then I have these lined up, Tein SS, Energy Suspension bushings (all but the motor mounts), I need the non-coilover rear shock mounts but where to get them now that they're discontinued. Don't need bump stops. What else am I missing? (don't say titanium arms) I'm thinking sway bars, but maybe not just yet.

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Old Nov 28th, 2004, 11:16 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Old Nov 28th, 2004, 01:12 PM   #5 (permalink)
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keep the stock upper rubber shock/strut mounts. they'll soften up the impacts. But, that's only if you can still get your camber adjusted to a reasonable spec. Otherwise, you might have to get adjustable camber plates and the ride will get rougher.

For wheels, I'd just use some 15" B14 SE-R wheels. I got the ES control arm bushings a long time ago (5 years?) and they don't affect the ride much at all. they do a great job of reducing wheel hop though.
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Old Nov 28th, 2004, 07:09 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Yeah,
I'm not touching the rims. I'm not changing upper mounts because of the harsh ride though. I'm going to be running the Teins at the highest setting (still lower and stiffer than stock) so I'm not sure how necessary camber adjusting will be.

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Old Nov 30th, 2004, 03:22 PM   #7 (permalink)
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What else am I missing? (don't say titanium arms)
You don't mention STB's, there are many choices, get both front & rear.
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Old Nov 30th, 2004, 05:05 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I already have front and rear. I'm mainly focusing on the actual suspension hardware. That is between the hubs and shock towers.

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Old Nov 30th, 2004, 05:13 PM   #9 (permalink)
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keep the stock upper rubber shock/strut mounts. they'll soften up the impacts.
You mean replace with new OEM ones. I'm gutting whatever I can.
The rest get the first two of these:
http://www.motivational.net/products/esbushings.shtml
(that is not shifter or motor mount)

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P.S. How many total bushings is that exactly per side?
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Old Dec 4th, 2004, 04:37 PM   #10 (permalink)
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you know you want one...... on sale at 10% off until dec 13th. www.mattblehm.com

and definitely get the ES bushings. I noticed ZERO ride quality difference with mine, but a ton of cornering improvements.
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Old Dec 4th, 2004, 11:02 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I'm definately interested.
However what are it's street benefits (meaning non-track).
I remember the Nu-tech brace which I wanted to buy but is now unavailable, and this was only beneficial at the track.
Is this effectively a more sophisticated strut bar which mounts on the bottom, or something else.
Also how does it install (meaning bolt on or drilling).

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Old Dec 5th, 2004, 01:50 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I'm definately interested.
However what are it's street benefits (meaning non-track).
I remember the Nu-tech brace which I wanted to buy but is now unavailable, and this was only beneficial at the track.
A Nu-tech style brace is still available from ShigSpeed (shigspeed@yahoo.com), and is noticable everywhere, not just the track. I unfortunately destroyed mine when i slid into a 7" tall curb at about 40mph (damn good thing I had the bar there too. It kept the curb from smashing in my oil pan in). I very sorely miss the enhanced feedback and overall front end rigidity it provided.
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Old Dec 5th, 2004, 10:25 AM   #13 (permalink)
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so which one is more 'advantageous' than the other.
Or rather, which one does what?

the nu-tech or matt blehm one?

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Well mine bolts on pretty easily using factory mounting points on the car. with air tools, it's about a 20 minute job.

Unfortunately I'm not familiar with the nu-tech bar to give any comparisons.
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The Shigspeed bar bolts between the stock control arm pivot bolts and the mounting point (you unbolt them, put the brace in place, put the bolts through the brace and back in). It also connects to the crossmember with two massive triangular clamps. You lose about a third of an inch of ground clearance at the lowest point.
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