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Old Sep 26th, 2004, 02:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Powdercoating suspension

Any one had parts of their undercarriage powdercoated to match their car before? If so how did it turn out? Any trouble with the finish holding up since its exposed to the elements and rocks and crap?
If you have any pics post them up.
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Old Sep 27th, 2004, 10:29 AM   #2 (permalink)
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would heating up the springs do anything to there function? like soften them? idk just my 2 cents. you could allways paint them with some urethane bumper paint isnt that made to move around?but about the finish holding up when u powder coat something it is very hard to chip. i have heard that if u powder coated your wheels or something metel then hit it with a hammer it would dent but the powder coat wouldnt move
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Old Sep 27th, 2004, 09:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
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would heating up the springs do anything to there function? like soften them?
Depending on how much heat, how long, and what conditions the springs are heated in, they can become softer, stiffer, or shorter in free length. I know nothing about the powdercoating process though so someone else is going to have to fill in that part of the question. It's a valid concern though.
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Old Sep 27th, 2004, 09:36 PM   #4 (permalink)
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powdercoating them would not last for crap, ur best bet is just to paint them, paint alone will hold up if u do the paint right
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Old Sep 27th, 2004, 09:44 PM   #5 (permalink)
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powdercoating them would not last for crap, ur best bet is just to paint them, paint alone will hold up if u do the paint right
my thought exatly i just didnt know if that was the case for sure. but yea powder coating would crack would it not? you could get paint contact duplicolor by phone and ask them what they recomend. they never respond to emails
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Old Sep 28th, 2004, 09:33 AM   #6 (permalink)
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powdercoating them would not last for crap, ur best bet is just to paint them, paint alone will hold up if u do the paint right

WTF?! Have you ever used a powdercoater or bought parts that are coated?

Powder is flexible and does not chip. it's also very thick if applied properly, so if it gets scratched, you can just buff it out.

as for the temps required, most powdercoating systems (at least the three brands of powder I have in the shop) require temps between 400 and 450F for 20 minutes or so to cure the powder. I'm not a metallurgist, so I can't say what that will do to spring steel, but I wouldn't be willing to do that to my car.
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Old Sep 28th, 2004, 01:28 PM   #7 (permalink)
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yea, ive been around powdercoating for a while.....and let me be the first to tell u that it does NOT last as long as it should for the price/procedure
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Hmm... the intake manifold on my engine still has the original on it that was done about 6 years ago when I got the car.
it's all in the prep work.
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Hmm... the intake manifold on my engine still has the original on it that was done about 6 years ago when I got the car.
it's all in the prep work.

the intake manifold is ok because its not under any type of real stress and is not exposed to any type of element...springs on the other hand can be treated pretty harsh.haha
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Old Sep 28th, 2004, 05:58 PM   #11 (permalink)
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my manifold sees oil, dirt, sand, heat, abrasion.... it's not flexing like a spring would, but it sees the elements all the time and is constantly getting extremely hot, and sprayed with oil from various things.

anyway, doesn't really matter. I've had good luck with it, you haven't. we can agree to disagree.

painting springs... powdercoating, or there are a lot of good flexible enamels out there.. or use the rubber tool-dip crap you can buy at a hardware store to dip tool handles. it covers them with a rubbery coating and stays on there forever.. very tough.
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you know i was thinking the same thing about the tool dip stuff but i didnt know if it would acually work. but i think krylon sells that stuff as spray paint u could use it on your springs and it might take away any squeeks as well(added bonus) and since its rubber it most likely wouldnt chip and it would deff. be flexable
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didn't think of that. I remember making ice scrapers in 8th grade shop class with that stuff.

I've seen paint and powdercoating done on show cars before, just no daily deivers. I think alot of springs are powdercoated though.
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didn't think of that. I remember making ice scrapers in 8th grade shop class with that stuff.

I've seen paint and powdercoating done on show cars before, just no daily deivers. I think alot of springs are powdercoated though.
yea but i think they are powder coated while they are being heated to cure the metal or what ever when they are acually made i dont think they are heated twice.i think it is powder coated during acual assembly
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Old Sep 29th, 2004, 11:31 AM   #15 (permalink)
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best bet if you're doing springs is to call the manufacturer and tell them what you're planning on doing. see if they have any input on it.
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