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Old Aug 24th, 2004, 09:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Bump stops

Okay i been looking all over for some decent bump stops for my kyb's i just got. Anyone have a site where i can buy them from, i checked motivational enginering and energy suspension and see no bumper stops. Something im missing....thanks for the help!!!
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Old Aug 24th, 2004, 09:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Koni makes some bump stops that will work well with your KYB's.
They look like this:
You should be able to get them from www.motivational.net.
Not sure off the top of the head who else sells them, but that's what you need.
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Old Aug 24th, 2004, 10:10 PM   #3 (permalink)
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i was @ there website, but i cant figure on how to order em..tomorrow i think im just gonna give them a call..
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Old Aug 25th, 2004, 12:07 AM   #4 (permalink)
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You Email the guys telling what your looking and where to send them too and they email you back with the complete price I always had good luck with them I like the fact they use paypal
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Old Aug 25th, 2004, 01:29 AM   #5 (permalink)
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You Email the guys telling what your looking and where to send them too and they email you back with the complete price I always had good luck with them I like the fact they use paypal
or better yet...pick up the phone and call them..(310)639-7320
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Old Aug 25th, 2004, 08:35 PM   #6 (permalink)
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or better yet...pick up the phone and call them..(310)639-7320
just what i did
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Old Aug 27th, 2004, 02:01 AM   #7 (permalink)
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just what i did
How much did they cost? How long would it take to get them?
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Old Aug 27th, 2004, 07:08 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Also, FYI, KYB do sells bumpstops as well. theirs are the 1 piece bump stop + boot variety.
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Old Aug 27th, 2004, 07:29 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Also, FYI, KYB do sells bumpstops as well. theirs are the 1 piece bump stop + boot variety.
and no where near as good as the Koni bump stops.
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Old Aug 28th, 2004, 10:30 AM   #10 (permalink)
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and no where near as good as the Koni bump stops.
Nowhere near as good? They're bump stops! How 'good' do they need to be? Are bump stops so highly engineered now that they have spring rates and thrust angles and god know what other engineering terms I dont even know?
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well, some bumpstops are made of firmer material than others... but the main purpose of a bump stop is still to prevent the damper from bottoming.

last I check the OEM and OEM replacement bumpstops do exactly that, prevent damper from bottoming.
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Old Aug 28th, 2004, 03:15 PM   #12 (permalink)
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KYB bumpstops are made from a slab of rubber. nothing too fancy about it, but they work great for stock repalcements.

Koni and Energy Suspension make urethane ones which offer an actual progressive rate. the farther you smash it, the harder it gets. that way you don't immediately feel like you bottomed out, and it helpd prevent shock/strut damage.

I've got three Koni shocks in the garage that were ruined by OEM bump stops. Soon as I switched to the Konis, the problems with bottoming out on huge dips went away and I haven't damaged another shock yet.
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Old Aug 28th, 2004, 06:56 PM   #13 (permalink)
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KYB bumpstops are made from a slab of rubber. nothing too fancy about it, but they work great for stock repalcements.

Koni and Energy Suspension make urethane ones which offer an actual progressive rate. the farther you smash it, the harder it gets. that way you don't immediately feel like you bottomed out, and it helpd prevent shock/strut damage.

I've got three Koni shocks in the garage that were ruined by OEM bump stops. Soon as I switched to the Konis, the problems with bottoming out on huge dips went away and I haven't damaged another shock yet.
EXACTLY...like I said... no where near as good as the Koni bump stops.

They aren't hard rubber they are Microcellular Urethane Bumpstops. Which greatly diminish the feel of bottoming out. They are already shortened, so there is no need for any addition cutting. Since they are pliable and soft, they give the car a more controllable feel if and when bottoming out does occur.


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EXACTLY...like I said... no where near as good as the Koni bump stops.

They aren't hard rubber they are Microcellular Urethane Bumpstops. Which greatly diminish the feel of bottoming out. They are already shortened, so there is no need for any addition cutting. Since they are pliable and soft, they give the car a more controllable feel if and when bottoming out does occur.

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Old Aug 29th, 2004, 12:01 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Lets start with the fact that bottoming out in the first place is the problem. Your basically putting a golden bandaid on a black and blue. My suggestion is instead of taking time to worry about the high-tech bump stops, invest your time and money into shortening your shocks, lengthening your suspension travel and not bottoming in the first place. But in the end, if you do hit the bumpstop, no matter how fancy they are, if you hit it mid-corner at the edge of your friction cirlce, your fucked.
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