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Old Jul 7th, 2004, 11:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Crappy coilovers and GOOD coilovers LIST!!!!

This is a list of crappy coilovers.

If you buy them, you aren't listening to us and heeding our warning.

And when you start to have problems.......we probably will flame you for being dumb in the first place


Here goes:

APC
Dropzone
weapon-r
ricky racer
arospeed
skunk2 (for nissans, pretty crappy. for hondas, good)
ractive
vaos
ANY EBAY BRAND except GROUND CONTROL
R-1 racing
goldline
megan racing

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Ground Control (not actual full coilovers though)
JIC
Tein
Nismo
Motivational Suspension
B&G
HKS
Buddy Club
Truechoice
KW suspension
ST suspension


feel free to add.
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Old Jul 19th, 2004, 08:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Flame if you want to but I "heard" you can use some of those crappy coilover sleeves with the ERS springs and you will come out much cheaper. Of course the sleeves have to be set for 2.5'' springs.

Just what I heard
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Old Jul 19th, 2004, 08:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
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If you want broken perches.Not a single part of any of those sets are worth the money.I speak from experience and lemme tell you I have already f%cked up twice by getting crappy R1 coils and Eibach Prokits.Now Im getting the Hypercos wishing I wouldnt spent all that other money.$700 to get Hypercos in the end?Its not worth it.Listen to Chimmike and Kojima they know exactly what they are talking about.Also Reverm is one of the most knowledgable suspension posters on this forum.
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Old Jul 19th, 2004, 08:37 PM   #4 (permalink)
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If you want broken perches.Not a single part of any of those sets are worth the money.I speak from experience and lemme tell you I have already f%cked up twice by getting crappy R1 coils and Eibach Prokits.Now Im getting the Hypercos wishing I wouldnt spent all that other money.$700 to get Hypercos in the end?Its not worth it.Listen to Chimmike and Kojima they know exactly what they are talking about.Also Reverm is one of the most knowledgable suspension posters on this forum.

Actually I have been around much longer than a lot of the people here AND I have had very serious suspension work done to my car (beam bending anyone) Im simply saying that I have heard of someone trying ERS with crappy ebay sleeves. Not saying it will work just saying what else I have seen.

Personally im getting a custom job done by the same guy that did my beam bending, but that's just between us
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Old Jul 21st, 2004, 07:38 AM   #5 (permalink)
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B13 Rear Suspension>B14 Rear Suspension j/k
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Old Aug 29th, 2004, 09:42 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by chimmike
This is a list of crappy coilovers.

If you buy them, you aren't listening to us and heeding our warning.

And when you start to have problems.......we probably will flame you for being dumb in the first place


Here goes:

APC
Dropzone
weapon-r
ricky racer
arospeed
skunk2 (for nissans, pretty crappy. for hondas, good)
ractive
vaos
ANY EBAY BRAND except GROUND CONTROL
R-1 racing
goldline

feel free to add.

you made ground control an exception to the crappy coil over list. would you recomend the ground control coil overs or are you just saying that they aren't crappy? i had planned on wrapping the ground control coil overs around a koni yellow shock and throwing that setup on my z32. should i have second thoughts and shop more for my coil overs/springs?

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Old Aug 29th, 2004, 09:49 PM   #7 (permalink)
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GCs are good. However, I'd say there are better suspensions setups you can go with for the Z32 than a GC/Koni combination.
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Old Aug 30th, 2004, 09:12 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Actually I have been around much longer than a lot of the people here AND I have had very serious suspension work done to my car (beam bending anyone) Im simply saying that I have heard of someone trying ERS with crappy ebay sleeves. Not saying it will work just saying what else I have seen.

Personally im getting a custom job done by the same guy that did my beam bending, but that's just between us
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Why take the chance?

I have some serious suspension work done as well (first b14 with rear beam bent)...haha sorry couldn't resist.

We've all seen lots of things, just something I don't think should be recommended.. cheap crap is cheap crap no matter how you look at it.

I wence everytime I think of someone actually installing $49 coilovers, people have no idea how dangerous these things are..lol
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Old Sep 2nd, 2004, 02:59 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I have come to the conclusion that 450f and 350r is the universal spring rate for crappo coilover sleeve kits. I have researched, arospeed, ractive, weapon r, dropzone and r1. They all use the same 450f and 350r. So I would only recommend these to people who have adjustable shocks and swaybars aswell as the correct weight distribution for these spring rates.
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I know that sleeves are a great cheap option, but if you spend almost 500on some AGX shocks +300ish on sleeves...its almost beter to get a tein coilover suspension...don't they have one for our cars that is around 1200?
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Old Sep 5th, 2004, 09:00 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I know that sleeves are a great cheap option, but if you spend almost 500on some AGX shocks +300ish on sleeves...its almost beter to get a tein coilover suspension...don't they have one for our cars that is around 1200?
The Tein basics are $700 and it has ride height adjustability.
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Old Sep 5th, 2004, 02:16 PM   #12 (permalink)
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so does myoung have his rear beam bent or what? HAHA... that's hot tho...

how much did that cost?

does it really make that much a difference?

and did you just have the toe set to 0...
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Old Sep 5th, 2004, 05:36 PM   #13 (permalink)
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that does not belong in a "crappy coilover sticky"

make a new thread.
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Old Sep 28th, 2004, 10:36 AM   #14 (permalink)
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How about OBX, are they crappy as well?
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Old Sep 28th, 2004, 11:55 AM   #15 (permalink)
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How about OBX, are they crappy as well?
Yes. I'd say that OBX is one of the major ripoff companies that do have good products, just because they get their designs from proven companies. However, I would say any coilover sleeve out there just don't cut it compared to an actual full coilover setup, even as basic as a set of Tein Basics or something similiar that have a complete replacement. The main thing you want to ask OBX is what spring rates are they running with their application and you want to match those rates to a proper damper.
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