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Old Mar 23rd, 2004, 05:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Sticky on Sentra Lowering Springs!

A question that comes up every day thats annoying is lowering springs for the B13 and B14 Sentras.

These cars have very little wheel travel and cannot be lowered more than 1-1.5" without badly affecting the ride and handling. H&R spring are way too low and too soft, so are Eibach sportlines and even the less low prokits.

Get these only if you are into looks, the car will ride the snubbers in a turn and handle poorly. B14's have so little rear wheel travel that they will ride very bad as well. This is a rice mod.

The only lowering springs that are any good for B13 and B14's are the hypercos and they must be teamed up with a decent shock like a KYB AGX. They have decent spring rates and will really turn your car into a G machine.

Eibachs and H&R's will work well only when using Motivationals shortend struts and shocks for conventional shaped springs with Motivational/koni foam bumpstops and the Motivational rear shock mount for B14's. These will let you get your wheel travel back and even give a real nice ride.

Anyone asking these question over and over can now get flamed!

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Old Jun 2nd, 2004, 08:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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what about tein s-tech or tein h tech?
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http://www.nissanforums.com/showthread.php?t=4384

read around a little please.
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Old Jun 3rd, 2004, 08:03 AM   #4 (permalink)
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This doesn't help, the s. tech and h. tech are not coilovers, they are just lowering springs.
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Old Jun 14th, 2004, 08:12 AM   #5 (permalink)
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tein s.tech springs have the following spring rates.

fr- 168 lbs
rr- 280 lbs

Eibach prokit

fr- 137/228
rr- 114/240

sportline
189
117/228

I haven't found the H&R spring rates yet.
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Old Jun 21st, 2004, 07:49 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I mentioned earlier that I don't think Tein springs and GR-2's are a good setup. I could be wrong because my research shows that Tein s.tech are meant to work with stock shocks.

Tein s.tech are 170lbs up front, 280lbs in back
Tein h.tech are 190lbs in front, 250lbs in back
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Old Jul 5th, 2004, 08:34 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I could be wrong because my research shows that Tein s.tech are meant to work with stock shocks.
This seems to be the cause of a lot of confusion. When Tein says that they're meant to work with stock dampers, it means that they will fit struts that have the same dimensions and mounting points as the stock dampers. It's a combination of them mistranslating from the original Japanese label and them not explaining things thoroughly enough in English.

The similar goes with Eibach. If you read the German manuals, they indicate that their drop springs are built to work with some cars' stock dampers, but not all (it specifies "not all"). They also caution the buyer that they should check with either the dealer or Eibach to ensure that the stock dampers can be safely retained.

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Old Jul 15th, 2004, 10:09 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I have the Tokico package on my 93 E. They are the blue ones that come with both springs and shocks. They rock. I had them on my car for 4 years now. I also had some 17 Inch ADR's (205/40/17) and they rubbed a little bit but it wasn't too bad. It's hard to believe the H&R's are too soft and low. H&R's are the best spring on the market.
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I have the Tokico package on my 93 E. They are the blue ones that come with both springs and shocks. They rock. I had them on my car for 4 years now. I also had some 17 Inch ADR's (205/40/17) and they rubbed a little bit but it wasn't too bad. It's hard to believe the H&R's are too soft and low. H&R's are the best spring on the market.
Put your car on a skidpad (or find a big open parking lot in the middle of nowhere and make one), and you'll find out exactly what everyone's talking about.
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I have the Tokico package on my 93 E. They are the blue ones that come with both springs and shocks. They rock. I had them on my car for 4 years now. I also had some 17 Inch ADR's (205/40/17) and they rubbed a little bit but it wasn't too bad. It's hard to believe the H&R's are too soft and low. H&R's are the best spring on the market.
i had them on my b14 and they were shitty......no offense to those that have em....so i got the tien basics set up and the ride is smooth and i lowered it 3 inches in the front and 2.25 inches in the back....if ur gonna lower your b13 or b14, better do it the right way the first time...it'll save u money and be a lot safer on the road....
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i'm going to lower my car, once i put on my 17in. only cuz i don't want that big gap and I don't want to have the front of my car look higher than the back.

The tein basics look like a good idea, what esle would i need.. i read around, and am still unsure on what to do.

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what esle would i need.. i read around, and am still unsure on what to do.

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i see the brands and spring rates, but i dont see how much each lowers the center of gravity by. anybody know off hand how much each spring lowers the car front and back?
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A question that comes up every day thats annoying is lowering springs for the B13 and B14 Sentras.

These cars have very little wheel travel and cannot be lowered more than 1-1.5" without badly affecting the ride and handling. H&R spring are way too low and too soft, so are Eibach sportlines and even the less low prokits.

Get these only if you are into looks, the car will ride the snubbers in a turn and handle poorly. B14's have so little rear wheel travel that they will ride very bad as well. This is a rice mod.

The only lowering springs that are any good for B13 and B14's are the hypercos and they must be teamed up with a decent shock like a KYB AGX. They have decent spring rates and will really turn your car into a G machine.

Eibachs and H&R's will work well only when using Motivationals shortend struts and shocks for conventional shaped springs with Motivational/koni foam bumpstops and the Motivational rear shock mount for B14's. These will let you get your wheel travel back and even give a real nice ride.

Anyone asking these question over and over can now get flamed!

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This may be a stupid question but what's the difference between a lowering spring and a coilover?
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This may be a stupid question but what's the difference between a lowering spring and a coilover?

do a search on this one because this question is really easy.
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