skets I have to disagree with you on the handling of the tein basic. They are not that bad. I drove the car and it handles extremely well. The only issue is that it is a bit bouncy diminishing confidence in high speed corner on roads, with ripples or bumps. The only time it feels harsh is when travelling on a really bumpy road. It starts to hop like a pogo stick, but never feels as bad as crappy coilovers or lowering springs.
I will admit, the levin feels twice as good despite the shocks. But I really doubt the shocks were as bad as you say. Even bad shocks can still have use.
Leave the Tein Basics alone, I think they aredecent for a basic kit. The Tein SS feels beutiful to me.
smooth road they are nice
anything else they feel like sh*t
which is why i advise anyone that lives anywhere that has roads even half as bad as ours to buy the ss's if they have the money. Would you agree or not?
__________________ Manual, 1800 on 16's but I'm still drivin it sideways!!!
Reverm, thanks again for teh formula and Shift_of_legend thanks for working me through it ... i just fully realized how whole inadequate almost all the lowering springs on the market are.
__________________ Manual, 1800 on 16's but I'm still drivin it sideways!!!
I was on my way to work today and i saw this eclipse coming from behind,it looked really nice and lowered .But i noticed something as it passed by ,it was bouncing like a yoyo and i told my self i dont want my car to be like that when i lower it.Reading this thread i guess i will go with the tein basics ,i hope i wont have any major problems.I Was going to put some tein s lowering springs but i will stick to the basics.
Reverm, thanks again for teh formula and Shift_of_legend thanks for working me through it ... i just fully realized how whole inadequate almost all the lowering springs on the market are.
The formula made me realise that 300 / 250 spring rates are correct for a 1" lowering of the b14 chassis like Mike has formulated.
When I did the calculation for 2", the spring rates are ridiculous. talking about at least 450/350 ideal 500/400.
Finding shocks for that is going to be expensive, and the stiff ride couldn't be udeful on streets.
Tein BASIC, Hyperco and so on are simply the only budget route to take.
I'm not even sure if coil spacers would work to raise other lowering springs to improve travel because our springs aren't flat and springs spacers generally require springs with flat ends..
So... I guess my decision on getting TEIN for my SE 2.0 doesn't sound like a bad idea... but if I'm going to also put in 18s on as well, will that drastically affect the whole understeering thing with the Sentra? there must be a way to fix that even if you only lower the car an inch or so.
I am going to definately do more research. But people keep on posting because I'm in the process of finding the right suspension for my car and ultimately the best setup for all around driving (everyday, autocross, etc.)
oh, and even with just an inch lower, doesn't that do something? I mean, preformance wise?
Oh and another thing... I have an '01... which on the tein website they didn't seem to plot on the table... in that case I was looking at the options for the '02 SE-R... feel free to correct any and all mistakes I make... I'm still learning all the specs I can pull off.