thanks for the suggestion, i'm taking a drive to the country this weekend so i will try taking out the seats then...
As for you explanation of the teins spring rates, that makes a whole lotta sense. I will definately push Shift_O_L to buy the teins then... then we can make a real comparison of the two setups.
BTW based on what i read in Kojima's articles on sentra.net; stiffening the rear of your car is the best way to counter understeer , however i have a friend with an AE110 supercharged levin and he is running stock springs (which are pretty soft) with KYB agx in the front set to stiff and kyb gr2's in the back. The thing is his car oversteers all the time, even the slightest corner and his car oversteers. Doesnt this go against the reasonings in Kojima's article?
I ask because right now i can only afford to buy a pair of adjustable shocks and based on Mikes article i should buy the pair for the back and set those to stiff to get rid of some understeer, but based on what i see in real life it would make sense to buy the front ones. Please explain what is happening with my friends car.
Either three things are probably happening, the rear suspension is bottoming under roll, the tire pressures are way off or the rear suspension is misaligned and the tires are toeing out.
Shocks don't change the ratio of understeer to oversteer, they control the rate of weight transfer and how rapidly understeer or oversteer, whatever the cars natural balance is sets in.
Your friends car should not set the front shocks to full stiff with stock springs.
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ok besides the price being a major concern what about those tein ss coilover kit or even basics? are they worth the money invested in them??? how will it be for everyday use(potholes, bumps...etc)????
ok besides the price being a major concern what about those tein ss coilover kit or even basics? are they worth the money invested in them??? how will it be for everyday use(potholes, bumps...etc)????
Both Tein SS and BASIC kits are well worth the money for street use. I do however, think the default spring rates for the B14 are a bit high for really rough roads. If you drive on really bad roads (lots of bumps/potholes/gravel/wavy road), I would actually reccomend getting either kit with 1kg(f)/mm (~55lb(f)/in) softer springs. It does cost a bit of extra money (and you won't be able to lower the car quite as much), but I think you'll be a lot happier with the ride comfort and stability over bumpy roads.
Will my mounts be able to work well with it, and how much lower do you think the basics will make my car...all I can find is 2.72" in front and 1.81" in rear off the Tein website...but I'm not sure if I'm reading it right I don't know what most of the stuff means.
yes you will be able to use your existing mounts. as for the drop on the teins, im not quite sure. however, you should be more than happy with the drop they'll give you.
I've done a few searches, and read this thread over twice. I didn't want to start another thread, but I just want a simple answer to an uber specific question. I got ahold of a set of Eibach pro-kits with stock bump stops off an NX2000 that are mint for $100. Ignoring my struts completely (I understand I need to run agx's or equivalent), am I going to encounter the debilitating handling b14's suffer from? It's just mind boggling that such an over-engineered platform as awsome as ours can do diddly without much less than full coilovers.
I just want to reduce the massive wheel gap and improve handling.
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I've done a few searches, and read this thread over twice. I didn't want to start another thread, but I just want a simple answer to an uber specific question. I got ahold of a set of Eibach pro-kits with stock bump stops off an NX2000 that are mint for $100. Ignoring my struts completely (I understand I need to run agx's or equivalent), am I going to encounter the debilitating handling b14's suffer from? It's just mind boggling that such an over-engineered platform as awsome as ours can do diddly without much less than full coilovers.
I just want to reduce the massive wheel gap and improve handling.
You're going to encounter similar travel problems with the B13/NX too.
I donno about the over-engineered part though. Macpherson strut suspension systems give up a lot for the sake of simplicity, and in many modern implementations it's become a compromise between chassis rigidity, damper travel, and reliability under continued stress (amongst other things). Chances are, it was a conscious decision by Nissan's suspension designers to sacrifice damper travel in favor of other factors.
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