Motivational vs KYB AGX w/ GC COILS

2HundredEHsex · Oct 25th, 2003, 10:11 PM

Motivational Strut/Shock w/ ground control coils ....$1440
KYB AGX Strut/Shock w/ ground control coils....$800 (estimated)

????WHICH ONE IS BETTER?????

i dont know which one i should go with...what do u think???

motivational1 · Oct 25th, 2003, 10:28 PM

AGX's are cheaper. My suspension is shortened and rides so much better. You really can't compare them other than what fits in your budget.

Greg200SE-R · Oct 26th, 2003, 01:52 AM

Look into Tein Basics. They're shortened slightly - 35mm in front and 10mm in the rear. They also are real nice pieces, well-built with no noises from coilover sleeves (there are none). The handling is sweet and the ride is surprisingly smooth. Believe me, struts and spring rates that are made to work together can't be beat.

They also shouldn't cost too much more than the AGX/ GC combo. I was seriously considering this combo earlier this year but went with the Tein SS setup. The Basics, I hear, work so well that lack of damping adjustment is not an issue with most owners. Good luck.

2HundredEHsex · Oct 26th, 2003, 02:22 AM

for the tien basics, are the coilovers set at a certain weight??....if not, then what weight should i use for the coils??

Greg200SE-R · Oct 27th, 2003, 04:35 AM

If you get the B14 set, the spring rates are 336lb front and 280 rear. What might be better for you is if you go with the B15 Sentra Basics - 336lb both front and rear. They are both the same thing except for the higher spring rates in the rear.

You can also buy different springs for an additional price.

rkeith · Oct 27th, 2003, 09:52 AM

would you guys recommend the Basics over the GC/AGXs? Im really not sure which to get... what would the difference between the two setups be? I would like to do some mild racing eventually...

pearsont74 · Oct 27th, 2003, 12:12 PM

I thought the issue with the basics vs the AGX is the adjustiblity on the actually strut/shock...I like having that option to play with depending on the road and height of your car, also allows u to set to your type of driving. the TEIN SS I believe is fully adjustable like the AGX but alot more.

PatScottAKA99XE · Oct 27th, 2003, 12:14 PM

Even the basics will kick the AGX/GC setup. Travel is key and the Tein stuff gives you more than the AGX/GC.

sentra_hilo · Oct 28th, 2003, 12:36 AM

could u use b13 AGX's w/ G/C coilovers to get more travel?

rkeith · Oct 28th, 2003, 10:35 AM

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Originally posted by sentra_hilo
could u use b13 AGX's w/ G/C coilovers to get more travel?

yes you can but only in the front IIRC

2HundredEHsex · Oct 28th, 2003, 02:02 PM

ok im like a lil confused right now.....sooo on the b14 u can use the b13 kyb agx w/ gc but only in the front??..... is the spring rate in the front going to change?.....and for the TEIN BASICS, someone told me it would be better to get the spring rate at 336 all around....is this true?......and one last thing, how much can u lower the b14 using the TEIN BASICS set up??

Greg200SE-R · Oct 28th, 2003, 04:10 PM

The B13 AGX fronts were made shorter than the B14 struts. You'll regain some travel. But, remember that Tein Basics and SS dampers are THE least expensive dampers made for our cars that are shortened. PatScottAKA99XE is right - travel is key. Teins will gain 35mm of travel in front over non-shortened struts and offer the same advantage in travel as the B13 AGX. Tein rear dampers give you an additional 10mm (AGX not shortened in the rear).

For the Basics, 336lb/in springs in the back as opposed to the 280lb ones will do several things:

1) they will provide better handling. If you plan to autocross or hit the track, the stiffer springs will help urge the car to rotate a little more. They'll also help keep the rear of the car from dipping as much when you launch at the drag strip.

2) On the streets it will do more to fight bottoming out your suspension in the back.

3) they will improve upon the slightly "vague" feeling that the rear of the car can give when equipped from the factory with only a front roll bar.

and for your last question, the Teins will allow you to lower your car till half the underside scrapes on every speed bump or driveway you drive over. In other words, you can go anywhere from a very conservative drop to way-too-low. Take a look at my car ( http://home.hawaii.rr.com/gso100/200SX/index.htm ), I have my Teins as low as I can go while scraping things minimally (I still scrape a heat shield on a speed bump at my home and rub my exhaust tip on the driveway once in a great while). In fact I'm thinking of raising them back up a little before my next alignment. Hope this helps.

2HundredEHsex · Oct 28th, 2003, 07:25 PM

thanx for the help greg200se-r....ur now my idol.....haha....

nismo-vzr · Oct 29th, 2003, 02:02 AM

If you are going to use tein 336 all around, that will be special order only since the kit comes in #6 for the front and #5 for the rear.
Stick with the basic set-up and add a camber plates instead of changing the spring rates. #5 and #6 is good enough for track day weekends. If you can add a few more dollars buy tein ss for adjustability. Even without camber plates.

sentra_hilo · Oct 29th, 2003, 02:40 AM

did the 200sx in nissanperformace mag use b13 agx's on the front or b14?