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Old Oct 13th, 2003, 09:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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what is "bad ride"

when people say if you just get springs your ride will suck. what does that mean though? Is it bouncy, undrivable, someone please explain
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Old Oct 13th, 2003, 10:52 PM   #2 (permalink)
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It can be all sorts of things, the main symptom of lowering springs on a Sentra is harsh(from the struts/shock bottoming) and bouncy(lack of dampers ability to control the stiffer rate of the springs). Thats pretty much what happens. Of course then we can talk about how the car wont handle near as good as it should becuase of the above mentioned problems. Read the Eibach Problems thread at the top of this section.
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Old Oct 13th, 2003, 11:19 PM   #3 (permalink)
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also consider suspension travel, that's a big factor too.
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Old Oct 13th, 2003, 11:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Didnt I mention that, lol

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Old Oct 14th, 2003, 08:15 AM   #5 (permalink)
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i know all the above reasons that cause bad ride but i just wunna know how bad it is. what are the symptoms. imt much woried about auto x-ing
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Old Oct 14th, 2003, 01:21 PM   #6 (permalink)
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well, if it feels bad, then it's bad! The lower stance gives you a lower center of gravity and the stiffer ride better grip,

but bottoming out and a bouncy ride hinder proper weight transfer and kick your tires off the pavement every time you hit even the tiniest bump... the car starts to act like a rollerskate, and is pretty hard to deal with.
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Old Oct 14th, 2003, 07:04 PM   #7 (permalink)
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try riding in someones ride wherein he cut the springs to lower it...that pretty much explains what bad ride is...
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Old Oct 14th, 2003, 10:26 PM   #8 (permalink)
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so will it be dangerous?
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Old Oct 15th, 2003, 12:09 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Not unless they do any kind of risky maneuvers, it will just be really uncomfortable.
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In my experience, a badly lowered ride with jouncy suspension is great on billiard-table smooth 80mph bends, but once you start hitting ruts and expansion joints, it'll start dancing like grease on a griddle... lowering springs/struts with good play will mitigate this, but it'll still be a little squirrely... be okay for Auto-X, though, unless the course is extremely bumpy.
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Old Oct 15th, 2003, 10:41 PM   #11 (permalink)
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ok, thanks for that insight. maybe ill just go for h&r springs since they only lower like 1.4 inches and cut the bumpers. depending on how bad it is ill save for shocks/struts
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what about some progressive eibach prokits?? also with a mild 1.4 drop.
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Old Oct 16th, 2003, 10:31 PM   #13 (permalink)
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einbachs are the one that make your car sit odd arent they
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Old Oct 19th, 2003, 02:26 AM   #14 (permalink)
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the "raked" look, although when i measured the height from the before and after install back then, it dropped them evenly, it's just that the fender well lip is higher on the front than on the back.
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Old Oct 19th, 2003, 02:27 AM   #15 (permalink)
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although, that can be resolved by JDM fenders, right, anyone??
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