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Old Oct 11th, 2003, 08:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I need Advice on coilovers for Sentra

Did a quick search, i'm sure this topic has been discussed before...anyway,

I have a 96 sentra, and i see a couple of coilovers on ebay for sale.

Brands like V2, Dropzone (seen a lot of these), and Arospeed.

You guys are the experts here, i have 17" rims, sitting on 205/40 series tires, i'm looking to drop it 2.5" in the front, and 2" in the rear,...the front on sentras are typically higher by design, it seems. My questions are: If i install the coilovers, do i need a camber kit/camber bolts, like the hondas? Will it cause excessive wear on my wheels? What are the advantages of going with springs?
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Old Oct 11th, 2003, 08:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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D. none of the above

seriously, most of the stuff you find on ebay is..well...crap. Unless you're talking about Strut tower bars, the basic rule is You Get What You Pay For. The coilovers you listed are basically made by small basement companies trying to make a quick buck. you will have a really shitty ride, no added performance, and plenty of bottoming out. I would recommend putting these coilovers on a non-drivable fully-show car.

You want some REAL coilovers get Ground Control coilovers (with AGX shocks), or if you want REALLY NICE coilovers, go with Full coilovers like Tien. RIDE is NICE, PERFORMANCE is SUPERB, and it's the real deal.

Prices:
Ground control setup:
>Coilovers (upper urethane ring, spring, threaded perch, and tools) = ~$400
>KYB AGX shocks/Struts = ~$400
>GC front upper mounts with camber/caster adjustment = ~$150-200(?) (optional)
>Motivational Engineering rear upper mounts for GC setups = ~$120 (optional)
>Koni bumpstops = ~$60 (optional)

Tien Basic:
>Coilovers (Springs, threaded shocks, perch, tools, & bumpstops) = ~$1099
>Pillowball mounts (front with camber adjustment and rear mounts) ~$250

Tien SS:
>Coilovers (Springs, threaded shocks, perch, tools, & bumpstops) = ~$1299(?)
>Pillowball mounts (front with camber adjustment and rear mounts) ~$250
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Old Oct 12th, 2003, 02:45 AM   #3 (permalink)
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D. none of the above

seriously, most of the stuff you find on ebay is..well...crap. Unless you're talking about Strut tower bars, the basic rule is You Get What You Pay For.
trust me on this. i bout some areospeed coilovers and my ride felt like a$$. some the extra bucks and go with ground control coilovers with kyb adjustable shocks, they feel way better and so much smoother.
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Old Oct 12th, 2003, 02:53 AM   #4 (permalink)
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JIC FLT-A2!!!
Nah, lots of $$$
Go with the above mentioned.
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Old Oct 12th, 2003, 03:07 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I will certainly heed to your warnings,...i guess those coilovers aren't worth it. Now, i might go with the ground control. Thanks again.
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Old Oct 12th, 2003, 08:24 AM   #6 (permalink)
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just remember do not lower the coilovers on a stock shock/strut setup.... you'll kill your stockies in a matter of weeks. Wait to put on the coilovers until you get the AGXs and do it all at once....
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Old Oct 12th, 2003, 12:37 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Not that I know much about B14s, but can you even drop one 2" in back?
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Old Oct 12th, 2003, 02:00 PM   #8 (permalink)
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i'm not 100% certain, but i've seen b14s on the street that seem as if they have been dropped 2 or more inches in the rear. Now with the cross beam,...what will happen if u go too low
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Old Oct 12th, 2003, 09:08 PM   #9 (permalink)
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There isn't enough travel, 1.5 inches is the most you should lower. Just because you saw something on the street, doesn't mean it was safe, smart or well done.

This page is a little out of date, but should be a good guide for what to do...

http://www.sentra.net/tech/garage/su...c62488a186dce8
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Old Oct 13th, 2003, 06:42 AM   #10 (permalink)
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i didn't at all imply that it was safe, smart, or well done....just telling u what i saw. I'm not an expert on suspension, however...I would certainly like to do it the right way...thanks for the link, good advice there

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Old Oct 13th, 2003, 08:51 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I'm not trying to sound like you implied that, but there will be people reading this that think that, I'm just reinforcing it for them.

Since for 48 hour newbie status has passed, I'm also going to move this to the B14 section for you. More people will see it there and you may get some better advice.
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Old Nov 8th, 2003, 05:44 PM   #12 (permalink)
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yes. take 1997ga16de's advice. don't even THINK of getting any of those suspension parts on ebay.
i forget who it is, but someone got the TEIN basic setup and it is working like magic on his B14. that's the one i'm saving up for!
however, no one mentioned specifics on parts and/or measurements for adjusting front camber on the tein's, and also what kind of rear mounts. are you talking about the motivational engineering mounts?
just checking.
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Old Nov 9th, 2003, 12:23 PM   #13 (permalink)
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There is nothing wrong with the dropzone coilovers. Anyone who says different doesn't have them.
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Old Nov 9th, 2003, 12:33 PM   #14 (permalink)
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There is nothing wrong with the dropzone coilovers. Anyone who says different doesn't have them.

It all depends on what you want from them. If you want performance that the DZ(or other ebay/cheap) ones cant hold a candle to the good stuff mentioned above(GC, Tein, Jic). If you just want to lower your ride for looks only go ahead and get the DZ ones. Dont be upset however when a guy with Teins or GCs blows you away on the track.
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Old Nov 9th, 2003, 12:37 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Yeah, I'm not sure about the track. Something tells me everyone doesn't go to the track. I know on the street that the ride and cornering are excellent. No noise and the ride is not bouncy. The motivational mounts and the koni bumpstops probably help.
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