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Old Sep 7th, 2003, 09:47 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Good setup?... i wanna know your opinion

what do you think about this combo

Tein S-Tech springs (F 2.4" R 1.2")
and KYB AGX Shocks & Struts

Is this a great handling package? I know Tein is notorious for handling. But i dont see many people with them.

Tell me what you think?
WOuld this be an ultimate handling package?

I dont really care about adjustable ride height.
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Old Sep 7th, 2003, 12:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Good setup?... i wanna know your opinion

I would just like to put forward this little tidbit of info: the key to good handleing is suspension travel. Slammed cars that have 2" of shocks travel will never handle well.

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WOuld this be an ultimate handling package?
To put it mildly...FUCK NO!
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Old Sep 7th, 2003, 03:59 PM   #3 (permalink)
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you suspension will suck. anything lower than 1.5 inches will be very very bad.

do you drive a b13? get Hypercoils
driving a b14 get H&R's

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Old Sep 7th, 2003, 05:19 PM   #4 (permalink)
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why would such a known company (Tein) have bad handling springs?
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Old Sep 7th, 2003, 08:55 PM   #5 (permalink)
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One word.. Money

They know that there are rice boys out there who will buy stuff just for looks. I dont blame them, they are just taking advantage of a market. If you want an "ultimate handling package" you need good stuff like Teins or other good coilovers.
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Old Sep 7th, 2003, 09:32 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Ok let me clear this up! lol

Tein (the known company for handling) has springs with F 2.4" drop and R 1.2"

people say anything less than 1.5" will give crappy handling

then why is Tein ( a kown company for handling) selling springs with a 2.4" drop?!?
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Old Sep 7th, 2003, 09:38 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Your question was already answered. Those springs are primarily for looks and not performance. Not to mention they will dramatically decrease the lifespan of any off the shelf shock.

If you want good handleing, it starts with weight reduction, better tires, alignment settings and driving techneques. After that, I would look into shocks. Springs and swaybars will help keep body roll down and alter balance.

Take this from someone who competes himself and has worked for an East Coast Honda Challenge pit crew, there is a lot more involved that slapping some springs onto a car to make it handle better.
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Ok thanks !

so what springs (not coilovers) do you recommend to go along with the AGX Shocks n Struts
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Is your car a dialy driver? Do you compete? Do you have a list of springs available for your car? I dont know what is available for your car.
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Daily driver.... i dont compete i just want good handling... No bouncing... no coilovers.

I dont really know whats out there
I know eibach, and Tein makes them
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i have eibachs and they're pretty good when i autocross....paired with the kyb, agx's of course, but it's not that low and has a "raked" look.......
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Old Sep 7th, 2003, 11:04 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Yeah, Eibach ProKit and KYB AGX is a nice setup. Personally, i wouldnt buy Prokit again because it offers too little suspension travel. Also, a rear swaybar might be nice to decrease roll a little and balance the handeling a bit.
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Old Sep 7th, 2003, 11:07 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Quote:
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you suspension will suck. anything lower than 1.5 inches will be very very bad.

do you drive a b13? get Hypercoils
driving a b14 get H&R's

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Good choices.
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Old Sep 11th, 2003, 12:11 PM   #14 (permalink)
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The best coilovers for the slammed look would be the Motivational Engineering setup. With their custom mounts and shortened strut bodies. I've rode in a lot of lowered cars and most felt like crap, after drivng a 200SX that was extremly low with Motivationals I was shocked.. The earlier post is correct, its all about suspension travel...

A lot of companies make a lot of crap, regradless of the name.. do the research and buy the right parts the first time...
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Daily driver.... i dont compete i just want good handling... No bouncing... no coilovers.

I dont really know whats out there
I know eibach, and Tein makes them
read what i wrote and what has been quoted
if you have the b13 chassis get hypercoils
if you have a b14 chassis get H&R's

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