Here is my final statement on this. Those who are serious about performance and only half care about style will get coilovers and light wheels. Those that are only half serious about performance and want style will get lowering springs and fancy wheels.
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Patrick Scott
Yeah, thats a roll cage in there.
I shall call him...Mini-Me
This is a quote from nissanperformancemag:
"Not only does it improve look, but it gives better steering response and, since most of the time you also put larger tires, better cornering, braking ability and more grip during hard acceleration"
What theyre saying is exactly the opposite of what your saying about wheels, i dont get it.
I could give you a quote from a Nissan employee with an engineering degree who also happens to write for Sport Compact Car stating the same things I have, but I have put enough into this already, and seems like nobody wants to listen. You can find it a www.sentra.net
edit: You guys with questions need to do a little more homework. Its not as cut and dried as that NPM quote. There is a lot more to it. I paid attention in my physics classes and took about 5 years worth of automotive courses, plus I have ASE master tech certification. I said my piece, made my point, and spit out some sound suspenison theory. Not to be rude, but Im done here.
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Patrick Scott
Yeah, thats a roll cage in there.
I shall call him...Mini-Me
Last edited by PatScottAKA99XE : Mar 1st, 2003 at 12:15 AM.
Pat - for clarification I was talking about on really bad roads. With the stock setup that car obviously handled badly on the very rough roads and I was explaining that once you lower your car and go with stiffer suspension ride quality can't help but be worse on rough roads.
However, on smooth surfaces my car handles markedly better than when I had my stock suspension in. It corners better, I don't get as much pitch when I have to brake harder and there is generally less body roll.
WRT the infamous bottoming out -- well its obvious once you lower our sentras they will be more prone to that so I wasn't trying to hide that fact from anyone who might be looking to upgrade.
Finally, for me my ride and driving experience has been improved with my new setup on the smoother surfaces but is obviously worse than stock on the rough or uneven surfaces.
I think the problem so many of us have with this debate is everyone is expecting a "one size fits all" solution. If someone wants that then perhaps they should save their cash and get a real performance vehicle later down the road. Alot of guys sound like kids still in school. Its just a car folks
It is very possible to lower a Sentra with stiffer springs and still have it ride good everywhere. I have been told that Mike Saiki's car rides way better than stock and its lower and stiffer than any lowering spring setup on the market.
A Sentra is not more prone to bottoming if you use a proper suspension. There are quite a few systems out that can be setup lowered around 1.5" or so and you still have more travel than stock.
I would be willing to bet that if you take 2 stock B14s put the new Tein Basic Damper kit on one and put the popular lowering spring/ME mounts/koni stops/AGX setup on the other. Both at the same ride height the coilover kit will kick the crap out of the lowering spring setup on the track and on the street. In performance and ride quality. Plus it would do it for for just about the same money if not less.(not a plug for Tein, just an example)
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Patrick Scott
Yeah, thats a roll cage in there.
I shall call him...Mini-Me
Im not really taking them to seriously Im just messing with ya. I couldnt give two craps if someone wants to run lowering springs. Its your car do what you want with it. I know you are not going to run it on the track and you will never drive at such a level on the street to need higher end stuff. (no one in particular>)Just dont make excuses for having lowering springs while your on the boards, if you do you will have the wrath of Pat to deal with. LOL
I may get a little worked up once and a while. If you were trying to convert everybody into running good shit on there cars you would to. Just remember me every time a B14 rolling on ugly little 15"s smokes you. Bwhahahah!
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Patrick Scott
Yeah, thats a roll cage in there.
I shall call him...Mini-Me
If you wanna go larger wheels but still maintain lots of your performance you could check out the new centerlines. I know Les Schwab sells them. The 17's weigh only 13 lbs each!!!
Just remember me every time a B14 rolling on ugly little 15"s smokes you. Bwhahahah!
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