ok another suspension q? - Page 3

PatScottAKA99XE · Jan 16th, 2003, 05:32 PM

setwas, I belive its the other way around. out=twitch, in=stability.
Toe out will make a car initate(sp) a turn faster because its always on the edge of turning(twitchy), to in add stability for the opposite reason. Toe in makes a car want to go straight.

sethwas · Jan 16th, 2003, 05:47 PM

Well,
That depends on where. Toe in in the front makes the car twitchier since the outer tire is turning sharper than the inner one. Toe out in the front makes the car more straight line stable since there is no 'pull' to turn like at toe in.

Seth

PatScottAKA99XE · Jan 16th, 2003, 05:59 PM

I was talking at the front.

PatScottAKA99XE · Jan 16th, 2003, 06:06 PM

"Toe-in front - Car is stable while going straight. Turn in is average/1/8 inch total toe-in

Toe-out front - Car turns in well, works pretty good in FWD cars as they tend to toe-in under load/1/4 inch total toe out "

Mike Kojima

Nuff said

PatScottAKA99XE · Jan 16th, 2003, 06:09 PM

BTW, FWIW the same rules apply to the rear tires as well.

shmuck90 · Jan 16th, 2003, 07:34 PM

So can it be adjusted if i lower my car and take it to a guy, toe changes after you lower your car right?

PatScottAKA99XE · Jan 16th, 2003, 07:39 PM

Yes toe can be adjusted after lowering. In fact its easier to change toe then it is to change camber. Unless you have camber plates like I am soon to have. Wahhooo!

shmuck90 · Jan 16th, 2003, 07:44 PM

Nice, hey so are you up to getting the tein springs or what man?

PatScottAKA99XE · Jan 16th, 2003, 08:10 PM

Me? Tein springs. No, no, no my friend. I have a set of Tein SS coilovers on the way to my house as we speak(type?)

Jan 16th, 2003, 11:15 PM

nice setup with the teins btw, i had tein ha's on my s13.. well thanx for the lesson with toe.. glad i know what that is now

shmuck90 · Jan 18th, 2003, 06:47 AM

Hey Pat what do you think about the Tein springs, the only thing im worrying about is the very dramatic drop in the front (2.4) and low rate along with it, especially because i cant really do anything to help (like getting mounts,etc..) Do you think ill be ok with those springs, kyb agxs, and polyurethane bumpstops? thanks

Jan 18th, 2003, 11:18 PM

wow..2.4" in the front.. and how much in the rear..?
what's the spring rates on them.. also where can u get them the cheapest.. my friend has a 200 and he wants springs.. and strust i will tell him to go a sperate route than me.

shmuck90 · Jan 18th, 2003, 11:22 PM

2.4 front 1.2 rear

168 front 250 rear

shmuck90 · Jan 18th, 2003, 11:24 PM

Thats why im wondering what Pat thinks about it

PatScottAKA99XE · Jan 19th, 2003, 12:22 AM

Yeah, I am a little unsure about them. You guys know by now how I feel about lowering springs anyways, right. I would really have to drive a Tein lowering spring equipped car first before I say too much though.